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Originally Posted by sprocket
Yea, go visit the vast majority of those poor people and you'll see their injuries resulted from overstraining themselves carrying to much "bling".
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What the hell is wrong with you?
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Just about every other industrialized nation with UHC, isn't comparable with the US on this issue. Number 1, most of them have better health to begin with than our obese, heart disease having, tv watching, non-exercising, diabetic population.
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America can't have UHC because countries with UHC are healthier because of their UHC. Gotcha.
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The other issue, is our system is going to be the largest UHC system in the world.. by many times. The challenges in maintaining and implementing the medical system for a country as large as ours is going to be nearly impossible... especially when compared with a place like france.
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We already have a medical care infrastructure, funded through mixed payor means. We're only failing to cover 15% of the population. Single payor allows for everyone to receive preventative and emergency care at a greatly reduced cost and with better outcomes.
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I have no confidence in our federal government to uproot our entire medical system and make us all better off. Like I said in my first post on this thread, there's nothing stopping you from getting your state to provide health coverage. Get your state to do it. If it works as well as you think, then others will follow.
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I'm not sure what leads you to believe our medical system will be "uprooted." We're talking about how it's payed for, doctors and hospitals remain the providers of care. It's the profiteering that's excised. The benefit of a Federal UHC system over disparate state plans is the portability and additional leverage in negotiating prices with providers and pharmaceutical companies. Plus with a centralized system it's far easier to address chronic lifestyle issues like obesity and smoking.
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Its funny how so many people seem to mistrust the feds, claim 911 was in inside job, or go on and on about all the rights the government is continually taking away, but are ready to hand their lives right over in the form of UHC.
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It's funny how people drive on the federal highway system, go to public school, eat federally inspected food, yet don't trust our government to successfully administrate health care even we've been doing so for the elderly for 40 years.