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Post #180
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Originally Posted by silent_jay
host, this is the internet, you can find a story saying it's alright to fuck sheep if you want to, you can find a story to support any view. You have actual Canadians in this thread telling you what we tip, yet you keep going back to a story in a newspaper, I guess actual Canadian input from actual Canadians doesn't mean as much as written word from a newspaper.
Have you not seen what the Canadian posters in this thread have said we tip? I'll refresh your memory:
And from that list and The Stained Apron, it seems us Canadians are right on track.
Ten percent is not an adequate tip. Not at breakfast, not at lunch, never. Fifteen to 20 percent is the acceptable norm.
It's quite obvious you're going to continue to have this hard on for Canadians and see us as bad tippers, which doesn't bother me in the least, you can think what you want, we're not going to change your opinion here no matter what we post, as I said before, you're the best cut and paste man on the board, you'll just go out and find another 'study' or story to support your argument and go on your merry way.
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silent_jay, these were the posts, in the original thread that were the catalyst for this spinoff:
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http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=130882
<h3>"Canadians: A racist term in the US? "</h3>
Post #11 : "I have heard that we Canadians are also considered bad tippers, at least in tourist districts like Florida. My theory (if it's a true categorization) is that many Canadians calculate their tips based on the total sales tax, which is lower in American restaurants and bars."
Post #15 "So they're using the term Canadian in a derogatory way eh? Fucking Americans, I don't even know what to say. For the love of GOD I hate hearing about this shit.
You know, there's a REASON that Americans sew CANADIAN flags onto their packs when they travel abroad. It's because the world hates your guts, and you're so oblivious to the fact your country is rotting from the inside out. The only thing that would make me sad about the USA spiraling downward into oblivion would be that you dumb fucks would drag us down with you.
I guess you can't put ANYTHING past some inbred backwards fucktard from Texas.
I had something far more eloquent thought up, but for the love of god this has to be one of the most retarded things I've EVER heard."
Post #20 : "As for the whole tipping thing, if you don't like the extra money I give you, I've got two works for you... Learn to fucking type...."
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You can repeat your opinions about how I post, as often as you choose. I've asked you or anyone else to post data showing that Canadians tip an average amount above 15 percent at restaurants. Should we persuaded to believe nasty Americans made all of this up, about Canadian and other foreign visitor tipping attitudes, practices, and percentages?
The "canoe" joke has been circulating for years. Have you ever heard it before, or wondered about it? Stop "shooting" at me. Post one article with a description or data about Canadians leaving positive impressions at restaurants because of their practice of tipping above 15 percent.....
I am not the one who originated or built on the Canadian reputation, your countrymen have accomplished that for you, including some of our fellow TFP members who have posted here.
From <a href="http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showpost.php?p=2390838&postcount=153">post #162</a>:
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Originally Posted by Martian
host.
First of all, I won't quote relevant sections, as that's quite the dissertation.
But what I'm wondering here is why complain so much about Canadians? Contrary to belief expressed above I'm not about Canadian pride in this thread; I just look at your system and I think it's screwed up. My opinion. On the other hand, there are cheapskate Americans out there as well. Some of your countrymen have admitted to tipping 10% or less in this very thread. Do you really see so many Canadians at your fine dining establishment in Georgia (nearly 1000 miles south of the border) that you feel the need to make the distinction?....
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Canadians and other foreigners seem to be invading the Atlanta metro area, and the "culprits" are:
Canadian dollar vs. US: http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/CAD/graph120.html
<img src="http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/CAD/graph120.png">
....and being located next to the busiest airport in the world,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World%2...senger_traffic
in one of the fastest growing US metro areas, tourist markets, and convention markets:
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...010202836.html
Associated Press
Thursday, January 3, 2008; Page D07
For the third year in a row, Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport has retained its title as the nation's busiest airport in terms of flights, according to preliminary government data released yesterday.
The Atlanta airport logged 994,466 flights in 2007, up 1.8 percent from 976,447 flights in 2006, the Federal Aviation Administration said. Flights include takeoffs and landings.
Its rival, Chicago O'Hare International Airport, was listed as the second-busiest, with 935,000 flights in 2007, down 2.4 percent from 958,643 flights in 2006, the FAA said....
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http://www.btobmagazine.com/Articles...velopment.html
'No Vacancy’ Signs Are On
Thousands of more hotel rooms are on the way in metro Atlanta, as the conventions and hospitality industries continue impacting the region’s bottom line.
Bobby Hickman
October 22, 2007
Atlanta's hotel and hospitality industry is primed to add thousands of new rooms to the market in coming months as a number of new developments near completion. "We're getting close to the peak of the hotel market cycle," says R. Mark Woodworth, executive VP of PKF Consulting, during a recent conference on the Atlanta lodging industry. "Demand is rising again after the post-2001 slowdown, and we're seeing demand back around what had been a normal national average."
Atlanta continues to rank slightly above the national average of 62.7 percent, with 2007 demand around 63.4 percent.
"We see Atlanta's lodging market staying above average next year, as well as for the foreseeable future," Woodworth says, adding the market is "doing well in both the upper-price tier (such brands as Hyatt, Marriott, Ritz-Carlton) and the lower-priced tier..
...Strong demand is fueling the higher rate of new hotel development, with a number of projects in the development pipeline for the metro area. Woodworth says there are 21 proects under construction that will add 2,431 rooms throughout the area. There are a total of 94 projects in the planning stages, including eight near the airport, 10 in Gwinnett, 11 in Midtown and 18 in the Town Center North submarket.
"The lower-priced hotels are particularly strong, but all segments of the hotel market are strong," Woodworth says......
.......State officials say tourism is Georgia's second largest industry, with much of that impact in Atlanta. Vaughan says the metro area had 38 million visitors in 2006 that contributed $11.4 billion in direct economic benefits and sustained more than 215,000 jobs last year.
Georgia has the eighth largest tourism economy in the United States, with Atlanta ranking fifth nationally in number of hotel rooms and sixth in nightly demand. The average party of Atlanta visitors consists of 2.7 individuals who stay an average of 2.51 nights. Each individual visitor spent an average of $144 per day in 2006, including lodging, food, entertainment and shopping.
"The first quarter of 2007 was a little down but it started to level out in the second quarter," Vaughan says. "The rest of the year looks pretty good. The Atlanta hospitality industry's pulse has improved over the course of the year and looks to continue to be steady for the remainder of 2007."
While the convention booking pace for seven of the next eight years is above the baseline index of 100 percent, 2009 could be a challenge, as bookings are only at 97 percent. However, 2010 will be a good year, with bookings at 161 percent. "In some situations, it's proving difficult to find space at both hotels and convention centers," Vaughan says.
While most U.S. visitors come to Atlanta from the southeastern states, foreign travelers also make up an important segment of the tourist population. <h3>The top international cities for travel to Atlanta are London, Mexico City, Frankfurt, Toronto and Montreal, according to the Atlanta Convention & Visitors Bureau.</h3>
"Delta added 20 new international destinations in 2006 and is adding more in 2007," Vaughan says, with plans for other new destinations next year including China. "Meeting planners rate Atlanta favorably as a meeting destination,"
Vaughan says. As an overall convention destination, surveys of planners show Atlanta moved up from 18th to 12th place. "However, our surveys find some challenges remain," he adds. "There are concerns about taxi service, general safety and the ease of getting around Downtown." .....
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http://www.timeinc.net/fortune/servi...03atlanta.html
U.S. Regions
Atlanta: A Center of Excellence
This metro area is one of the fastest-growing business hot spots in the nation. Its lure: an educated and diverse workforce, a strong economy, and posh lifestyle amenities.
It could be the can-do attitude of the region, its educated workforce, the temperate climate, or all three, but one thing is for sure: Atlanta has become one of the most attractive places in the nation for companies—big and small—to do business. Just consider this: During each of the past ten years, according to the Metro Atlanta Chamber of Commerce, an average of 180 companies have expanded or relocated operations in Atlanta. Some of the FORTUNE 500 who call Atlanta home are Coca-Cola, Delta Air Lines, Southern Company, and the Home Depot. The most recent arrival is Newell Rubbermaid, a $7 billion kitchen and home products company that is establishing a new corporate headquarters and training center set to open in March. Says Allen Franklin, CEO of Southern Company, an $11 billion energy company that has been in the area for decades: "Atlanta is an easy sell. It's a vibrant yet comfortable place to live, and people's eyes light up when you talk about moving here."
Atlanta's demographics make a strong case for why business leaders find the "big peach" so irresistible. Since 1990, the population in metro Atlanta—28 counties in all—has increased 53%, to 4.7 million people. And economists say the growth should continue. The area's population is expected to grow by 170,000 in each of the next five years....
.....The people and businesses making their way into Atlanta are lured in large part by a fast-growing economy, a robust job market, reasonable housing costs, an enviable quality of life, and a world-class airport. Hartsfield-Jackson handles nearly 80 million passengers every year—earning it the distinction of being the world's busiest airport—and offers more than 500 nonstop flights to 44 international cities every week. Indeed, with its sleek, clean terminals, hundreds of food and retail shops, and spacious atrium, the airport has become a model for others around the country. ....
...UPS, the world's largest package-delivery company and a global leader in supply chain services, moved its headquarters to Atlanta in 1991 after a national search. It now has more than 10,000 employees in the metro area delivering over 13 million packages a day to more than 200 countries around the world.
Like other logistic companies, UPS chose Atlanta for its strategic location on the East Coast and its world-class airport. In addition to UPS, more than 2,000 companies, employing more than 84,000 workers, are in the logistics industry. It's no surprise that most of the CEOs we spoke with mentioned Hartsfield-Jackson Airport as >h3>one of the biggest benefits to locating a business in Atlanta. More than 80% of the U.S. population is within a two-hour flight of the city.</h3>
The Centers for Disease Control & Prevention is the cornerstone of Atlanta's stake in the field of bioscience. More than 10,000 jobs have been created locally around the development of vaccines, cancer research, and the making of medical devices, according to a 2003 industry report by Ernst & Young. In the software arena, local B2B companies such as Manhattan Associates and Radiant Systems continue to create new jobs, and of course the area leads the way in telecommunications. Not only is Atlanta the home of Turner Broadcasting System Inc., but investments by BellSouth, one of the city's biggest employers, enable nearly 95% of the company's customers in the region to be within 12,000 feet of a fiber connection. More than 100 Internet service providers, including EarthLink, offer service in the metro region.......
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One of your own shot the photo below, and he enjoyed visiting us so much, he's threatening to return:
http://angelodelosangeles.blogspot.c...n-my-mind.html
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Aquarium
The Georgia Aquarium, located in Atlanta, Georgia at Pemberton Place, <h3>is billed as the "world's largest aquarium" with more than 8.1 million US gallons (30,662 m³; 30,661,835 liters) of marine and fresh water housing more than 100,000 animals of 500 different species.</h3> The aquarium's notable specimens include four young whale sharks (Alice, Trixie, Yushan, and Taroko) and four beluga whales (Nico, Natasha, Marina, and Maris). Marina died in the early hours of December 1, 2007 from unknown causes. Funded mostly by a $250 million donation from Home Depot founder Bernie Marcus, the aquarium was built on a 20 acre (81,000 m²; 8 ha) site north of Centennial Olympic Park in downtown Atlanta. Marcus credited his 60th birthday dinner at the Monterey Bay Aquarium in 1990 as among the inspirations behind his desire to build an aquarium in Atlanta......
<img src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_J6AGGZHtddI/RigHRYxFcOI/AAAAAAAAAlM/G3Foy_M83yA/s1600-h/Atlanta+034.jpg">
<h3>the Georgia Aquarium opened first on November 21, 2005</h3> to annual pass holders and then on November 23, 2005 to the general public. At $27.00 per adult, $21.50 for Seniors, and $19.50 for Children, the price of admission to the non-profit aquarium is among the most expensive in the country. The aquarium has nevertheless far exceeded visitor expectations, welcoming its millionth guest on March 1, 2006, only ninety-eight days after opening. The aquarium sold over 290,000 annual passes for its first year, before sales were halted (to avoid a "private club" atmosphere, according to Aquarium Executive Director Jeff Swanagan).[1] </h3>The Georgia Aquarium welcomed its three millionth guest</h3> on August 24, 2006 and its five millionth on May 23, 2007.[2]
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<h3>I'm going to give you what you wish for...regular updates of tipping percentages on the guest checks of our foreign and domestic patrons. I hope the information I posted above this paints a picture for you of my potential to provide date that will further open some interested eyes, and roll the eyes of some others, stay tuned!</h3>
Last edited by host; 01-30-2008 at 07:42 PM..
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