Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community - View Single Post - Canadian and other Foreign visitors to the US, why do you tip less?

host · 01-30-2008, 11:24 AM

A thank you to all non US posters who have responded to the idiosyncracies of the base wage and tipping custom/dynamics as they happen to be, here in the US, after several of us have described them to you.

That said, I have several observations to share about the reactions of a good many of you, including Americans who I have the good fortune not to have had to serve very often.

Some of you must be dining in some extremely mediocre restaurants, judging by your comments.

If you read the articles in the OP, they support my contention about the differences in tipping percentages in some US cities and the average tip prevalent in Canada.

The response to this data and to the thread title question was and continues to be a litany of complaints about bad service experiences, threats to tip lower in the future in reactiiin to anticipated bad service, and insulting and condascending remarks directed towards me and at others who have posted similarly to what I have posted.

At the end of it all, I am left with the impression in the article in the OP....no one has posted any link to data suggesting that average Canadian tips are higher than 15 percent, yet material exists....as I posted in the OP that supports higher average tipping percentages in the US, more than 25 percent higher than 15 percent.

Unless some new information is posted to change my impression, so far I am left to expect that if you come to my restaurant and have a drink at the bar and then dinner at one of my tables, even though it is the best of the best, I can expect that you will regard me as someone working at a menial task, akin to a beggar, and if I do everything absolutely to your satisfaction in serving you, I can look forward to, despite the details I have shared witg you, receiving a 15 percent tip from you, resulting in my service team paying our bar 2 percent of your drink tab.
I shudder to think how the experience of serving you in a restarant the next rung down, and lower will be. I thought it was a matter of informing you, but .....

01-30-2008, 11:24 AM	#158 (permalink)
host Banned	A thank you to all non US posters who have responded to the idiosyncracies of the base wage and tipping custom/dynamics as they happen to be, here in the US, after several of us have described them to you. That said, I have several observations to share about the reactions of a good many of you, including Americans who I have the good fortune not to have had to serve very often. Some of you must be dining in some extremely mediocre restaurants, judging by your comments. If you read the articles in the OP, they support my contention about the differences in tipping percentages in some US cities and the average tip prevalent in Canada. The response to this data and to the thread title question was and continues to be a litany of complaints about bad service experiences, threats to tip lower in the future in reactiiin to anticipated bad service, and insulting and condascending remarks directed towards me and at others who have posted similarly to what I have posted. At the end of it all, I am left with the impression in the article in the OP....no one has posted any link to data suggesting that average Canadian tips are higher than 15 percent, yet material exists....as I posted in the OP that supports higher average tipping percentages in the US, more than 25 percent higher than 15 percent. Unless some new information is posted to change my impression, so far I am left to expect that if you come to my restaurant and have a drink at the bar and then dinner at one of my tables, even though it is the best of the best, I can expect that you will regard me as someone working at a menial task, akin to a beggar, and if I do everything absolutely to your satisfaction in serving you, I can look forward to, despite the details I have shared witg you, receiving a 15 percent tip from you, resulting in my service team paying our bar 2 percent of your drink tab. I shudder to think how the experience of serving you in a restarant the next rung down, and lower will be. I thought it was a matter of informing you, but .....