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Old 01-29-2008, 09:23 PM   #344 (permalink)
Willravel
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Originally Posted by sprocket
Lets not forget, nutrition science isnt anywhere as certain as it gets made out to be. So what if your genetics allow you to maintain a fairly unhealthy diet, but your conditions were caused by some other outside factors? Yet since you eat bacon every day, they deem you unworthy for care.
I am always left wondering after reading stuff like this. Tell me, where above did it say that someone wouldn't be examined? Where did it say that they won't seek to find out what's causing your obesity if you have a healthy diet?

Nowhere.
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Originally Posted by sprocket
You have the freedom to educate yourself, and choose a career that will get you the best medical care possible. Prices are so out of control partly because of government involvement. Demand goes through the roof because of government medical programs, and drives up the prices. Thats a simplistic way of looking at it, and there are many more factors involved, but its still true.
Who in the government decides that I have to pay $10k a year (my actual rate) because I have a preexisting condition? No one. That's a decision made by the health care insurers because I may not be a profitable patient at a normal rate. That has nothing at all to do with the government and everything to do with the free market.

As for government involvement in medicine... IT'S CIRCULAR. Big pharma and big health care insurance bribes representatives that will return the favor once elected. That wouldn't happen in a system that existed in the public sector.
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Edit: What is going to happen when the government provides healthcare to everybody and no one has to weigh the economic cost for getting every little ache and pain checked out, time and time again? Those current projections of a couple hundred bucks per tax payer are going to fly out the window. Then they have to either raise more taxes, or start coming up with all kinds of lists of acceptable and unacceptable treatments, procedures etc. Less freedom.
The private US health system spends a higher portion of its gross domestic product than any other country but ranks 37 out of 191 countries according to the WHO. In other words, we pay more and get less. Sounds like we're getting raped. Do you have a source for your projections?
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