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Originally Posted by loquitur
Sheesh. Read the flippin' Federalist Papers about the need to restrict the powers of central government. It's all right there. And you still haven't made any effort to deal with that British NHS proposal to ration care away from people like the overweight or smokers.
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Reread the article, the only NHS proposal mentioned is to incentivize self-care. Hardly clear evidence of the government restricting freedom. The Federalist papers are an interesting insight into political thought at our nation's founding but things have changed to such an extent they're hardly the end point in a discussion about the role of government.
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Originally Posted by sprocket
Yet since you eat bacon every day, they deem you unworthy for care.
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No one's doing that.
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You have the freedom to educate yourself, and choose a career that will get you the best medical care possible.
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Yeah what's wrong with all those poor people choosing to have no money?
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Prices are so out of control partly because of government involvement. Demand goes through the roof because of government medical programs, and drives up the prices. Thats a simplistic way of looking at it, and there are many more factors involved, but its still true.
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You have no idea what you're talking about, and doing so with authority!
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Edit: What is going to happen when the government provides healthcare to everybody and no one has to weigh the economic cost for getting every little ache and pain checked out, time and time again? Those current projections of a couple hundred bucks per tax payer are going to fly out the window. Then they have to either raise more taxes, or start coming up with all kinds of lists of acceptable and unacceptable treatments.. have you done in your past that will allow us to exclude you for treatment etc etc. Less freedom.
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Every other industrialized western nation has UHC and pay 60-120% less per capita than we do in the US. Preventative care decreases health expenditures over the long term. You're inventing problems that don't exist.