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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Only an idiot would be a waiter for minimum wage. The trick is getting more than minimum wage and also insuring that the employee still makes it.
The reason anyone who doesn't suck as a waiter doesn't like straight payment is that they can make MORE if they are good at their job.
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So if the waiter already makes more than minimum wage, there's really no difference to the customer if the employer pays his waitstaff minimum wage and raises the price of the goods 15% or so to make up the difference. And if the wait staff prefers to get paid an abysmally (and criminally, in just about every other developed nation) low wage on the basis that tips will more than make up the difference, then I don't see what all the fuss and bother is about. There is no place that I'm aware of where tipping is an enforced requirement. As a famous writer once said, you pays your money and you takes your chances.
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
You take away tipping and no I'd not have made sure your dining experience was as pleasurable as possible, I'll be in the back hitting on the women who work with me, shame your burger is cold.
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You're skewing the argument. I'm not saying that all tips should be eliminated. I'm saying that regarding a tip as anything other than a bonus provided for service rendered is fundamentally flawed. Again, I'm not responsible for making sure wait staff get paid enough. I will gladly tip an amount that I feel reflects the quality of service. If the service is good, the tip is good. If the service is poor, the tip is poor. Creating some arbitrary floor on the tip amount does not encourage wait staff to work hard, since they know they'll be getting X amount anyway.