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Originally Posted by Mr. Pink
I don't tip because society says I have to. All right, if someone deserves a tip, if they really put forth an effort, I'll give them something a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, it's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doing their job...
...I'm very sorry the government taxes their tips, that's fucked up. That ain't my fault. It would seem to me that waitresses are one of the many groups the government fucks in the ass on a regular basis. Look, if you ask me to sign something that says the government shouldn't do that, I'll sign it, put it to a vote, I'll vote for it, but what I won't do is play ball. And as for this non-college bullshit I got two words for that: learn to fuckin' type, 'cause if you're expecting me to help out with the rent you're in for a big fuckin' surprise.
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Sums up my opinion on the matter nicely.
In Canada tips aren't taxed and servers make a decent wage. Therefore, a 15% tip is quite reasonable. Like most of my countrymen I use that as the average, with variations according to the quality of service.
I'm sorry your system is so fucked up, truly I am. If it were up to me the wait staff would get a reasonable wage, like everyone else does. However, the fact that your tips are considered part of your regular earnings rather than the gratuity they're supposed to be, that's not my fault. I'll march in a rally if you hold one, but following the rules of a fucked up system is not the way to go about changing it.
Wait staff are one of the groups who seem to have been arbitrarily selected as people we tip. Most of us don't tip people in other service industries. How many of you tip the cashier at the grocery store? Or the customer service guy at your local electronics store? These are also people who provide a service and from where I'm sitting it would seem that they have to put up with most of the same bullshit servers do. Aside from a crappy wage, what makes the servers any different?
It's not a question of how much money I make. If I didn't make enough money to eat out, I wouldn't be eating out. It's not a question of who's responsible for what; in my opinion the waiter is entirely responsible for making sure my order is correct, as they're the person who relays the order from my table to the kitchen and ferries the food from the kitchen back to my table. If there's something wrong with the order, the waiter should catch it. I don't care how busy you are, I don't care that boss pays you a shitty wage and I don't care that your goldfish died today and you are too distraught to do your job properly. The bottom line is I'm not the one employing you and if you have an issue with the money you make you ought to take it up with your employer rather than coming to me with cap in hand. If you do a poor job, what the hell should I tip you for? Why should I reward bad service?
Also, this idea of spitting or whatever else in the food is
supremely fucked up and just makes me want to deny servers all of my money by not eating out. A gratuity is for above average service and holding my dinner hostage for better tips is pretty low, as far as I'm concerned.