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Originally Posted by silent_jay
Or maybe the wait staff should get better jobs and make more money so they can live like adults and not have to depend on random people for their money. Like I said before, if they don't like my tip, give it the fuck back, I'll use the 5 bucks.
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Has it ever occurred to you that most servers and such are high school or college age students just trying to make some money while attending school. Stop being a jackass and tip or stay home. If you can't afford to leave a decent tip then perhaps YOU should be the one getting a better job.
Everyone doesn't have to agree that tips should be the norm, in fact I really don't care if you hate tipping or not. However since you're aware of the custom before you ever leave the house then if you're against it...don't go! If you don't like Clinton then you're not going to vote for her, if you don't like Toyota's then you won't buy one, if you don't like tipping then don't go out to eat. It's real simple.
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Originally Posted by filtherton
but you'd be surprised at the machiavellian natures of the the prototypical valet.
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I think that almost goes hand in hand with what many people are expressing in this thread. It's only common (I use that term loosely) courtesy & out of respect for a complete stranger that one doesn't beat on their car. Sadly such notions are foreign to far too many people and that manifests itself in both tipping, valet parking, customer service, and many many other fields of employment. Some might say that these people should "get a better job", but if everyone was a doctor or a lawyer then who would be that lowly scumbag that makes sure your trash is taken from the curb each week? People have no respect for jobs that they deem beneath them and it's sad.