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Old 01-29-2008, 10:29 AM   #48 (permalink)
Leto
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Originally Posted by Randle2I
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If you don't want to tip, then stay home & cook dinner yourself. The old adage of leaving 15% just doesn't cut it anymore as the server not only has to make tips for themselves, but they must also tip out the bartender, the bus boys, and sometimes the hosts. When most people go out to restaurants they don't tip based on the service, but instead based on the cost of the meal. If it's an expensive meal then it kind of works out (sometimes), but too often they come and spend $30 on dinner only to leave a mere $5 tip. If the service was bad then by all means, leave a crappy tip, but if your drinks where always full and the bread sticks where always at the ready then please take care of the person taking care of you....
your stance is a philosophical one. I tip, but don't think that it should be the case. Why do I tip? because it is expected. How much do I tip? The exact amount (15%) which, by the way, DOES cut it. I tip based on cost of the meal and very rarely on the level of service.

If I find the service lacking (for example last Saturday at East Side Mario's) I speak to the server. Usually it turns out to be a problem further down the chain. The incident at East Side Mario's was an issue with the cook, and the waitress apologized profusely, and gave us a promo discount. In that case, I still tipped her a FULL (notice I use the term Full for 15% as that is the accepted rate here) 15% on the pre-discounted price of the meal.

NEVERTHELESS, I still do not like to tip. I think that the cost of the meal at the restaurant more than covers my desire to not eat at home and prepare my food myself.

That the industry has perpetuated the notion that we need to download additional cost to the end user I find disgusting, and only through solidarity (via hold back of gratuities) can we ever force change and make restuarants pay wait staff a living wage! DINERS UNITE!

Oh, Host, I did do research on tipping practices when I went to Jamaica, US, Korea, Sri Lanka etc to be sure. I find that the US and Canada are fairly sympatico, but 20%??? really now.

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Originally Posted by Daval
I tend to follow this same guideline. I do throw a couple of bucks at hairstylist, delivery and taxi though, but I don't base it on a percentage, its usually 3$ across the board.

ya the tipping of my barber.... I heard that etiquette demands that you don't tip the owner of the establishment. Never. It's bad manners. However, I always give an extra $4 to my barber (two toonies) for my $14 haricut. I've noticed that I don't have to make appointments anymore. If I walk in, a chair is always available.

Pizza, I give $2 all the time. Taxi? Can't remember the last time... except for an airport limo, and it was 15% of the fare (expensed to the company).

oh yes, at Christmas I left a $10 Tim Horton's card for my mail man, hanging on my mailbox. I sure hope he's the one that got it.

Last edited by Leto; 01-29-2008 at 10:37 AM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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