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Jinn · 01-28-2008, 08:30 AM

I would support such a thing, simply by anecdotal experience.

I was approached one time outside of a Village Inn (as we were going in) by a man who said he was hungry. He looked like a man who was once well-to-do, wearing a once nice collared shirt that was dirty and worn with overuse. He asked me for some money so he could run across the street and get food.

When I told him that I'd order him a meal inside (where it was also warm) if he wanted to sit with us, he rather vehemently declined. He kept insisting that he could cook and that he could make better food than Village Inn.

To me, it was an obvious ploy to get drug money in the guise of food money. While he might have legitimately been bemoaning the poor quality of VI (it's not exactly high class food), I reasoned that if anyone who was truly starving wouldn't refuse food of any sort, particularly as cold as it was that day.

In a similar way, I think anyone who is in TRUE need for immediate monetary relief (welfare, etc..) should be willing to do certain things to ensure to the ones gifting it that it is being used as they intend it to be. Drug testing, mandatory education classes, etc, etc.

It might not be the best anecdote, but it's the one I think of whenever I think about social programs such as welfare.

I think that recreational drugs are fine, and I even support the legalization of some. But that's for me. I don't support my charitable donation being used so that someone ELSE can do drugs. I provide charitable support because I want them to be able to live a safer, healthier life, not so that they can have a drug habit. If they want to have one, then more power to them - just not on my dime.

01-28-2008, 08:30 AM	#37 (permalink)
Jinn Lover - Protector - Teacher Location: Seattle, WA	I would support such a thing, simply by anecdotal experience. I was approached one time outside of a Village Inn (as we were going in) by a man who said he was hungry. He looked like a man who was once well-to-do, wearing a once nice collared shirt that was dirty and worn with overuse. He asked me for some money so he could run across the street and get food. When I told him that I'd order him a meal inside (where it was also warm) if he wanted to sit with us, he rather vehemently declined. He kept insisting that he could cook and that he could make better food than Village Inn. To me, it was an obvious ploy to get drug money in the guise of food money. While he might have legitimately been bemoaning the poor quality of VI (it's not exactly high class food), I reasoned that if anyone who was truly starving wouldn't refuse food of any sort, particularly as cold as it was that day. In a similar way, I think anyone who is in TRUE need for immediate monetary relief (welfare, etc..) should be willing to do certain things to ensure to the ones gifting it that it is being used as they intend it to be. Drug testing, mandatory education classes, etc, etc. It might not be the best anecdote, but it's the one I think of whenever I think about social programs such as welfare. I think that recreational drugs are fine, and I even support the legalization of some. But that's for me. I don't support my charitable donation being used so that someone ELSE can do drugs. I provide charitable support because I want them to be able to live a safer, healthier life, not so that they can have a drug habit. If they want to have one, then more power to them - just not on my dime. __________________ "I'm typing on a computer of science, which is being sent by science wires to a little science server where you can access it. I'm not typing on a computer of philosophy or religion or whatever other thing you think can be used to understand the universe because they're a poor substitute in the role of understanding the universe which exists independent from ourselves." - Willravel Last edited by Jinn; 01-28-2008 at 08:32 AM..