Originally Posted by willravel

You're letting yourself be blinded to what I'm saying. It's a shame I have to keep writing this over and over and over, continually explaining to those who refuse to listen:

I HAVE NOT, DO NOT, AND NEVER PLAN TO TAKE ANY ACTION TO TAKE AWAY A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHETHER OR NOT TO HAVE AN ABORTION. MY MORAL CODE IS MY OWN AND I AM WELL AWARE THAT FORCING IT ON SOMEONE ELSE IS WRONG. I HAVE NEVER NOR HAVE I EVER EVEN HINTED AT ANYTHING DIFFERENT.

Is that clear? So this will be the last time I address this point in the thread.

Contacting the father to simply supply information will not interfere with a woman's right to choose, so it's not a part of this thread. Nothing I suggested would take away a woman's right to choose. I even made it clear in the OP that none of my proposals would interfere with Roe v. Wade.

Apparently even the most intelligent people cannot grasp this. I must say that I'm profoundly disappointed.

Close the thread if you want, Mods.

Originally Posted by willravel

A woman can do what she wants with her body, but if an ovum is a part of a woman's body then sperm are a part of a man's body and with it are a link to a legal right of some sort over any child produced with his sperm. The pregnancy is impossible without the sperm, and considering the various paternity tests and child support payments, it's clear that the father bears just as much responsibility without getting any choice. That's not fair.

Let's go back in time. Say you're 23-24, unmarried and have a girlfriend you plan on marrying. She becomes pregnant. You want the child, she doesn't. Guess what? You can't do anything about it. She can go get an abortion and you have no legal vehicle by which to stop her. There are no father's rights, but there are father's responsibilities. In the same situation if she wants the child and you don't, she gets to have it and as the sex was consensual you are responsible for it.

It should be a man and woman's right to choose.