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Originally Posted by dc_dux
Will....you should know that most bullying is never reported...and you want to give a man another excuse to bully a woman who may feel threatened if she were forced to report her pregnancy?
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That's true, most women are delicate flowers and most men are abusive.
Here's a nutters idea: you're reaching, a lot. There's
no reason to believe that this type of policy would cause ANY abuse. None whatsoever. In fact, I'd go as far to say that this would likely help a great many people.
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Originally Posted by dc_dux
I might add that your justification for notification based on your friend's dropping out of school, having to get two jobs and not graduating on time is not very compelling to me. Guys drop out of school for many reasons, often looking for an excuse to externalize their action.
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He would have graduated with honors and gone on to a good UC. Instead he graduated late and had to attend a shitty JC. Her lie ruined his life and your lack of sympathy is symptomatic of apologism. She was wrong to lie, and her lie damaged him greatly.
I've still not seen any case to suggest my proposal isn't sound.
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Originally Posted by Elphaba
I continue to wonder why I participate in subjects that pretend to be about "father's rights" or some other "this isn't about abortion" topic. Will, whatever your initial intention, your topic now boils down to your belief that a woman choosing an abortion is nothing less than "premeditated murder."
The debate on when life begins, or ends for that matter, belongs in Philosophy. Host made it very clear that challenging current law begins with a lawyer willing to make that challenge to the law. Has that challenge been made? Are you making an effort to change the law, or is judging women as murderers sufficient for you? Your moral code doesn't trump the law.
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You're letting yourself be blinded to what I'm saying. It's a shame I have to keep writing this over and over and over, continually explaining to those who refuse to listen:
I HAVE NOT, DO NOT, AND NEVER PLAN TO TAKE ANY ACTION TO TAKE AWAY A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHETHER OR NOT TO HAVE AN ABORTION. MY MORAL CODE IS MY OWN AND I AM WELL AWARE THAT FORCING IT ON SOMEONE ELSE IS WRONG. I HAVE NEVER NOR HAVE I EVER EVEN HINTED AT ANYTHING DIFFERENT.
Is that clear? So this will be the last time I address this point in the thread.
Contacting the father to simply supply information will not interfere with a woman's right to choose, so it's not a part of this thread. Nothing I suggested would take away a woman's right to choose. I even made it clear in the OP that none of my proposals would interfere with Roe v. Wade.
Apparently even the most intelligent people cannot grasp this. I must say that I'm profoundly disappointed.
Close the thread if you want, Mods.