Before I start, thanks for an honest and open-minded response.
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Originally Posted by Byrnison
1) Where is the Damage?
Regarding the NIST picture of the Southwest corner, I would offer a 4th possibility that smoke is obscuring the corner. However, I would also say that the damage to this corner of the building was not what was being referred to, and it is unfortunate that the NIST report didn't have a better picture to show.
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This picture comparison uses identical damage in order to determine which floors are seen. Look carefully at the bottom 5 yellow lines showing where the photographs match up. I don't know about you, but there doesn't seem to be smoke covering the lower area in the amateur photograph (in comparison to the area shown to be damaged in the NIST picture where there is obvious damage). It's pretty clear that these pictures aren't showing the same thing.
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Originally Posted by Byrnison
The "scooped out" section referenced by the report was on the *South* face of the building, *not* the Southwest corner as shown in the picture. The report also had a graphic showing the possible locations of initial failure, that showed (in a cross-hatched orange region) the damaged areas. Note that the largest damage area is supposed in the middle of the south wall, and a much smaller damage area is shown on the southwest corner:
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Yes, this is the illustration provided by NIST, but that exists in a vacuum of evidence. No photographic evidence is known to exist that verifies this damage. If there were such photographic evidence (that was verifiable), it would change my perception of the situation considerably.
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Originally Posted by Byrnison
The thinking goes that a large chunk of WTC1 impacted the building, tearing out the wall and floors between 2 outer columns. If you watch the video above, it appears that the gash goes from the top of the building down at least 20 floors, possibly more, which is corroborated by a fireman on the scene.
The smoke blowing through the building makes the damage difficult to see. This video zooms in at about the :32 mark
and this still is taken from the video:
http://www.firehouse.com/terrorist/9.../gz/boyle.html
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I'm sorry but I don't see anything in the smoke to suggest damage. If you do see something, could you highlight it?
Again, thanks. I was a bit concerned that things were off course there for a minute. I hope the 4 hours were enjoyable.