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Originally Posted by Crompsin
You're absolutely correct. You can't debate the science but everybody argues the morality / legality. OH NOES. Men always lose in this debate.
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Legality's a dumb little logical circle to argue. Alas, there's way too many "the difference is that rape is illegal, duh" arguments that really ought to be aborted.
Men only 'always lose' this debate in the minds of those who willfully ignore the very point of the pro-life position.
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Science isn't something that tells us that people walking around who work 9-to-5 are more important than a clump of cells hanging out on a uterus wall.
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And if an evil nazi tells me I have to choose between the life of a Safeway employee and the life of a future Safeway employee, I'll surely choose the bigger clump of cells.
But we're not talking about life versus life, or who gets to get into that all-exclusive club. We're talking about life versus nine months of imperfect health, significant discomfort, and lessened mobility. The relevance of that human life ceases to be relevant in such a lopsided choice. Life, obviously, for the win.
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We are not "beautiful and unique snowflakes." A fetus is even less than that because it hasn't even started yet. The only value it has is MAYBE to its creators.
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And yet I don't have free reign to kill orphaned reclusive homeless. You need not give a human life value for it to deserve protection from your deadly indifference.
Plus, the analogy only works if snowflakes 'start' nine months after their formation.
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What is all this old and holy "sanctity of life stuff" and how do I wrap my head around it?
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Ignore, for a moment, your thoughts on abortion and focus on your less charitable thoughts toward other types of murder. Like, for instance, the murder of a woman following a rape. Note your revulsion: that's the sanctity of life stuff in you.