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Originally Posted by filtherton
It's as evasive as the "if you don't want kids don't have sex" position. Neither really offers anything of value to the discussion. That was kind of my whole point.
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I already know what you were 'trying' to get out and, no, it's not equal to my position. In a society where we advocate personal responsibility, it's amazing how readily one is to toss aside that concept when they feel like it. You (Not singling you out in particular) still haven't been able to come up with a reason why I'm wrong-- Other than, of course, "Because that's what humans do", hence why I called it evasive.
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Originally Posted by abaya
There are no equal rights in a discussion about pregnancy. The fact is that it is still the woman's body, not the man's. And it is the man's sperm, not his body, and not even his child yet (assuming the dominant argument for abortion, which is that it is a bunch of cells). It is a fetus, and as such, it belongs to its harborer until it emerges.
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This skirts dangerously close to sounding like the justification upon which women were/have been entrapped throughout history (Properties of their father/husbands to be done with as pleased, etc.).
Anyway, biology and fetal development aside (Which I'm convinced 99% of pro-abortionists don't really understand), I find your attitude quite appalling. A fetus doesn't belong to the woman, otherwise she'd be able to do as she wishes with it when she wants (And she can't, as I'm sure you're well aware) nor is a fetus an extension of your body as you have no direct control over it's development.
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Originally Posted by jewels443
A quick albeit unrelated response to an unrelated statement by IL, be careful of stats. The percentages you quote are based on "reported" abortions. When it was still illegal, there were back-alley practitioners who took advantage of young ladies who "got in trouble". Those were amongst those not reported.
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Already responded to that. Unless you can, with confidence, assume that nearly 25% of women were self-aborting their unborn children prior to 1970, then I'm going to have to say that the number of abortions has indeed skyrocketed since 1973-- Not because they're more needed than they were in the past, but because people are relying on them more so as a form of birth control then they were in the past.