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Old 01-23-2008, 11:59 PM   #89 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
I don't know what book of the bible you're quoting but Jesus never said, "Vengence is Mine." Jesus preached in Matthew 5:39 "But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also."
Just went by the old saying "vengeance is mine, so sayeth the Lord".

Barclay Newman and Eugene Nida, in their excellent Translator's Handbook on Paul's Letter to the Romans (New York: United Bible Societies, 1973, page 242), write regarding Rom 12:19:

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The scripture quotation in this passage comes from Deuteronomy 32:35... In translating "I will take revenge" [KJV: "vengeance is mine"] it is important to indicate that God takes revenge for what others have done, but not necessarily to himself. In other words, God is not being vengeful in the sense that he retaliates for what people do to him. Rather, he exercises judgment upon those who harm others. Therefore, one may translate "I will take revenge on the evil that has been done" or "I will take revenge on those who have done evil." In some languages the closest equivalent may be "to pay back" -- for example, "I will pay them back for how they have caused others to suffer." In other languages one may translate as "I will cause them to suffer in return."
http://www.bibletexts.com/qa/qa057.htm

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You asked where "vengeance is mine" is found in the Bible. You will find it in the NRSV, NASB, and KJV of Romans 12:19-21, where Paul writes, "19 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave room for the wrath of God; for it is written, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord." 20 No, "if your enemies are hungry, feed them; if they are thirsty, give them something to drink; for by doing this you will heap burning coals on their heads." 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good." (NRSV)
Shows the hypocrasy: "If you kill an unborn it's murder, but we need to fry all those that kill in society."
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