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Originally Posted by Seaver
This is how the current situation boils down, no rape/coercion/mental instability counted.
If a woman conceives and does not want to be a mother, she's pro-choice.
If a man conceives and does not want to be a father, he's a dead-beat no good worthless turd.
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And if a woman conceives, wants the baby, takes responsibility, carries, births, raises and provides for said baby,
And the man conceives, wants the baby on his terms, brings a box of diapers once a month and birthday presents annually, he's a daddy.
No matter how you sculpt it, it's not fair. Women know that life isn't fair. That's why we carry babies.
Elphaba's example is perfect. Or how about a 37-year old woman who's just pumped out two babies in the past two years (planned) who finds herself pregnant while she's still breastfeeding (OBs assure you that nursing mothers cannot become pregnant) and simply can not handle working fulltime, caring for four children and paying child care for them all, while her marriage is losing strength?
What about the young woman in her late teens or early 20s, a little naive, ends up in bed with a guy who promises to use a condom and she believes him when he says he's wearing one, or tells her "But baby it feels good, I'll pull out" and she thinks she's safe.
I'm aware that Willravel stated this all relates to consensual sex, but unless two people are in an amazingly secure union, there are so many scenarios -- and surely I haven't seen or heard 'em all -- that tell us why women are the ones with the right to choose.
I maintain that I do agree on the point of paternal notification. In an idealistic world, both parties agree. But they often don't, and I don't know many women who would carry a baby for a man that they no longer want in their life and hand him the baby after nine months.