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Originally Posted by willravel
Assuming the woman's fear extends to a rational urge to leave and get away, the male would not be in a situation to have consensual sexual relations with the woman. This would mean that she would not become pregnant and thus the concern over a male's rights to an unborn child don't apply.
I'm not intending to be disrespectful, but this thread is about consensual sex between two adults where no prophylactic is used (a vast majority of abortions result from just such a situation). The situation you are describing either involves a woman being coerced, raped, or not impregnated.
This is not tossing anything aside, either. I want to make sure that there are at least some paternal rights. As of right now, there are none.
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No offense, Will, but I think this exhibits a real naivete to the dynamics of an emotionally abusive relationship. And I'll go so far as to say that any law requiring women to have children because the father wants them to will be just as likely to be as a means of controlling the woman as it is to satisfy some dude who got laid one night and decided he wanted the resulting kid.
From what I see of the arguments in your favor here (not necessarily yours), they are predicated on two factors:
1. resentment towards women
and
2. anti-abortion stances
I don't trust arguments based on either of these attitudes to be in the interest of real men dealing conscientiously with this issue.