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Originally Posted by pr0f3n
We've managed to eliminate so many natural selectors that the morality of a positive or even zero population growth is debatable. The innate want is why we need abortions in the first place. Our inability to address our biology in an honest manner leaves so many people unprepared for the consequences of their actions. That and our backwards attitudes towards contraception.
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Morality is not science. We were talking about science, remember?
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Originally Posted by pr0f3n
That's a very limited use of the word. Propagation is a process that requires the adults stay healthy to care for the child, and the child to stay healthy enough to mature and reproduce. Making babies is not the be all end all.
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I didn't say it was the end all, but it's the genesis and without it there is no propagation.
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Originally Posted by Jewels443
It has everything to do with pro-choice/anti-abortion (we pro-choicers are pro-life, too, ya know) -- how responsible would it be for a young woman to keep a baby when she can't even provide for herself?
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The father could be responsible, assuming he's willing and able. That's the point. Just because the mother doesn't want the baby doesn't mean the father doesn't. And just because the mother has to spend 9 months taking responsibility for her knowing actions doesn't mean that the father shouldn't have any say whatsoever. I may not agree with abortion, but I think I understand it. It's a bizarre combination of responsibility (understanding that one cannot care for the child) and irresponsibility (I fucked someone even though I shouldn't have).
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Originally Posted by Jewels443
It can't always be about equity/equality. The priority should be geared to protect the interest of that potential baby.
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Hypothetically, which would you consider is the best interest:
1) Abortion
2) A loving father
BTW, I like your avatar.