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Originally Posted by willravel
"If you're pissed, don't post." This thread has the potential to become very heated, so please leave your anger at the door. This goes for everyone.
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Sorry if that came across as "mad." I think of it as "gruff" but I'll try and pay attention to my tone.
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A woman has a choice to allow her eggs to become fertilized and a man has a choice to fertilize them. She carry's it to term, but she is not the only parent. The man is only responsible as a provider if both parents agree that's his role. As I stated, there are plenty of stay-at-home dads out there, in fact there are so many that the idea of a rule or law concerning a man's role as the provider is antiquated. I'd say that saying a man's place is in the workplace is tantamount to saying a woman's place is in the kitchen, which is something I'm sure you'd never say seriously.
Yes, it's a double standard.
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The social contract in these United States stands opposed to your opinion, so while you're entitled to that opinion you're also subject to the law and customs of the land. While I know that rationale has been used to defend social inequities in the past, the inequities of reproduction bolster the social standard. The father is always responsible for the child, regardless of whether he wants to be. I never said the mans' place is in the workplace, I said the man is always the provider. When the woman is earning the money, he's ensured the child is provided for. Should she, for whatever reason, stop earning the money, it's still his responsibility to ensure the child's provided for.
Yes, it's a double standard. Double standards aren't always a bad thing, and sometimes there's no reasonable alternative.
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This would be a good question for pro-choicers. As someone who's more in the pro-life camp, I'd want to err on the side of not aborting, but that would be a function of my bias towards my philosophy on the subject.
For those who do believe that abortion is okay, it's obviously okay or a woman to have a baby aborted, but a man has no say?
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It's the woman's body. I know pro-lifer's want to blur the issue, but it's the woman's body and the fetus is a parasite, unable to survive outside the womb until, with the aide of cutting edge technology, roughly the 24th week of gestation. You deal with your parasites, let a woman deal with hers.