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Originally Posted by host
willravel, I'm sorry, but I view your thread viscerally, as offensive. I don't see why you want to go down this road. The obvious right for a woman to do what she wants with her own body, without being harrassed and deprived of medical care, products, and services, is fundemental, and should be a given in 2008.
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A woman can do what she wants with her body, but if an ovum is a part of a woman's body then sperm are a part of a man's body and with it are a link to a legal right of some sort over any child produced with his sperm. The pregnancy is impossible without the sperm, and considering the various paternity tests and child support payments, it's clear that the father bears just as much responsibility without getting any choice. That's not fair.
Let's go back in time. Say you're 23-24, unmarried and have a girlfriend you plan on marrying. She becomes pregnant. You want the child, she doesn't. Guess what? You can't do anything about it. She can go get an abortion and you have no legal vehicle by which to stop her. There are no father's rights, but there are father's responsibilities. In the same situation if she wants the child and you don't, she gets to have it and as the sex was consensual you are responsible for it.
It should be a man and woman's right to choose.
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Originally Posted by mixedmedia
I agree with this sentiment and, like Will, I have qualms about the practice of abortion and think it's a regrettable practice that we are still depending on in this day and age. But to force a pregnancy on a woman because the man who had sex with her wants her to have it is not a very progressive idea, in my opinion. In fact, I imagine such a thing could have very perverse and backwards consequences.
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If we're not talking about rape (which shouldn't be included in this thread, frankly), then she is just as responsible as the man for having sex. More so, actually, as sociologically speaking the woman more often is the one who decides where or not sex is going to happen. If a man who has consensual sex with a woman must be responsible for the child, why not the woman?