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Originally Posted by spinelust
<i>She</i> derides, actually.
And yes, I think I acknowledged my own self-righteousness in the original post, as well as the fact that there are plenty of people out there for whom public transit isn't a viable option, at least as it currently exists where they live. Local bus routes are notorious for stretching out simple A to B trips with stops every half a block, and believe me, that drives me insane, too. I don't think people need to go out of their way to inconvenience themselves by sitting on a bus for three times as long as it would take them to drive themselves to work. In my mind it would be nicer if better transportation options existed for everyone and that three-hour bus trip were a distant memory; the fact is that they don't.
Suppose your situation were reversed, as is the case with my colleague, and it took you 2.5 hours to travel 25 miles by car, while hopping on the subway/bus/trolley/whatever took half or even two thirds as much time. Would that knowledge possibly prompt you to reconsider your options?
For the record, the colleague in question actually admitted to me that her trip in to work on the train, a ride totaling no more than fifteen minutes, "really isn't bad at all." It remains to be seen whether her positive impression this morning will stick.
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Oops, my bad on the whole he/she thing.
I understand what you're saying and how you feel and it makes sense. I grew up being a car guy though, so when someone encroaches on that I get a bit defensive. To me driving, even in stop & go traffic, is a joy. I get in my car and it's mine, all mine. I'm in control of when it shifts, which way I go, what station I listen to if I even listen to one at all. My car is an extension of me, I bought it not because of practical reasons, but because I felt an emotional connection to it. Heck, when I step out of my car I always look back just to check on it.
I understand that for most Americans driving around in their beige 4 cylinder Toyota Camry's what I just described isn't the case. For some of them taking PT would be the wisest choice, but it's just that...a choice. Just like most people choose to eat out instead of cooking a healthier meal, just like many people choose not to vote, just like the majority of Americans choose to believe in a god. All of these choices might not be the same as yours, but one should respect them all the same. I appreciate what you're trying to do, but the righteousness of the first post just rubbed me the wrong way.
*fake edit* If the position was reversed for me I probably would take PT. I have no car payment (unlike most people) so I don't have to justify a $350 expense, the average car payment in America. I also drive a 37 year old car so it would allow me to keep the miles down. My position is rather unique though compared to most.
Anyways, that's it. Carry on
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Originally Posted by spinelust
<i>She</i> derides, actually.
And yes, I think I acknowledged my own self-righteousness in the original post, as well as the fact that there are plenty of people out there for whom public transit isn't a viable option, at least as it currently exists where they live. Local bus routes are notorious for stretching out simple A to B trips with stops every half a block, and believe me, that drives me insane, too. I don't think people need to go out of their way to inconvenience themselves by sitting on a bus for three times as long as it would take them to drive themselves to work. In my mind it would be nicer if better transportation options existed for everyone and that three-hour bus trip were a distant memory; the fact is that they don't.
Suppose your situation were reversed, as is the case with my colleague, and it took you 2.5 hours to travel 25 miles by car, while hopping on the subway/bus/trolley/whatever took half or even two thirds as much time. Would that knowledge possibly prompt you to reconsider your options?
For the record, the colleague in question actually admitted to me that her trip in to work on the train, a ride totaling no more than fifteen minutes, "really isn't bad at all." It remains to be seen whether her positive impression this morning will stick.
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Oops, my bad on the whole he/she thing.
I understand what you're saying and how you feel and it makes sense. I grew up being a car guy though, so when someone encroaches on that I get a bit defensive. To me driving, even in stop & go traffic, is a joy. I get in my car and it's mine, all mine. I'm in control of when it shifts, which way I go, what station I listen to if I even listen to one at all. My car is an extension of me, I bought it not because of practical reasons, but because I felt an emotional connection to it. Heck, when I step out of my car I always look back just to check on it.
I understand that for most Americans driving around in their beige 4 cylinder Toyota Camry's what I just described isn't the case. For some of them taking PT would be the wisest choice, but it's just that...a choice. Just like most people choose to eat out instead of cooking a healthier meal, just like many people choose not to vote, just like the majority of Americans choose to believe in a god. All of these choices might not be the same as yours, but one should respect them all the same. I appreciate what you're trying to do, but the righteousness of the first post just rubbed me the wrong way.
*fake edit* If the position was reversed for me I probably would take PT. I have no car payment (unlike most people) so I don't have to justify a $350 expense, the average car payment in America. I also drive a 37 year old car so it would allow me to keep the miles down. My position is rather unique though compared to most.
Anyways, that's it. Carry on
.