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Old 01-19-2008, 01:15 AM   #32 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by pr0f3n
The mixed payor health insurance market is failing. The idea of mandatory insurance is a half-measure and imperfect in it's own right, but it's all that's likely to be implementable in the current political climate.
So, now we burden those making minimum wage and slightly above, with having to pay outrageous health insurance? How exactly is someone who lives paycheck to paycheck and barely making it going to absorb the cost? Face it Health Insurance coverage will not go down, it will however probably go up because of the new demands on the already broken system.

Tax abatements? Price controls? People will still be paying from already tight budgets. I think this would be economic suicide for them.


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The purpose is not to control your life it's to free you of an unnecessary financial burden that's artificially inflated by the profit-motive.
I agree the purpose is not to control people's lives, however, it will come to that. We already see war with tobacco, fats, and soon sugar, caffeine, sodas, and so on. The government will blame everything it can for the high costs of medical care and start taxing or banning personal choices on what people want to eat. Or making people exercise because too many people have become "lazy and obese" and it is raising the costs of care.

The problem with giving the government total control, even in the name of helping, is that you open the door for them to take away choices, personal freedoms and rights (excuse me "privileges" because my eating Dorito's, smoking and sitting around the house on my days off are "privileges" not rights... or so they will be defined someday). The sad thing is the government will take away those "privileges" in a heartbeat if they can sell the people a good reason as to why they are. It's no, not, never government's "right" or "duty" to take away any personal choices, rights or freedoms. But it seems people are becoming more and more okay with them doing so and buying into the reasons why it is okay government does.

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Really, it's nice to speak about theoretical solutions abd high ideals, but our nation pays 60-300% more for health care than the universal health care schemes in Europe, Canada, and Japan and 15% of our population isn't even covered.
None of those countries have the malpractice suits and liability insurances our medical industry has to pay.

So instead of truly working on a way to solve the problem, we'll just have government make people pay for a new expense they won't be able to afford.

I have yet to see or hear one person either here or in real life tell me why a sliding scale system won't work. If you have insurance keep it, use it. If you don't or are maxed out, we have a sliding scale so that you can still get the treatment you need.
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