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Originally Posted by Strange Famous
I would welcome a woman president.
I just dont think Hillary Clinton is electable as a person, not as a woman. It is a shame - Jinnkai - that you categorise as a woman first and a politician second. I think this is an injustice.
But to get back on track... Marion Jones is a threat to nobody, her so-called crimes have harmed nobody (she certainly wasnt the only athlete juicing - a huge minority of them are)... as I said before, I believe her punishment is a symbolic and pagan action. She is being thrown on the fire to maintain the image that US track is basically clean.
If she must be punished for the alleged crime of perjury, it would be far more appropriate to issue a community service order...she should speak to young athletes and tell them how drugs caught up with her and didnt help in the end, so that they can learn from her example.... it is savagery to place a vulnerable young women in jail when she has not committed a violent crime. (the cheque fraud is completelt understood to be her partners activity, she was not criminally involved in it).
It is a pretty strange thing to hear someone make the accusation that seeking to defend a woman from this kind of violence is some kind of sexism. It is nothing to do with being patronising or paternalistic, it is to do with having a basic sense of right and wrong.
If Marion Jones stabbed someone, we'd be having a different argument - but she has not. She took steroids, which were pushed on her against her will by the US Athletics industry and the constant pressure applied on here, and lied about in an courtroom who's legality I have already challenged.
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She committed a crime. Whether the crime she committed is violent or not is inconsequential. I wish you would stop trying use that as a reason she shouldn't get jail time. This line of reasoning would lead me to think that you would protest jail sentences for all kinds of non violent crimes, including the white-collar fraud committed by head honchos who ran Enron and WorldCom.
She sure didn't seem very vulnerable when she defiantly boasted that she has never taken steroids and screamed from the mountaintop to look at the B sample when she did fail a drug test.
She is not a scapegoat, nor is she some kind of sacrificial lamb. Even if you could make a case that the government was trying to make an example out of her, it's more credible for us to believe they went after her because she's famous and well known. But that's not the reason the government went after her.
To say she was 'pushed' into using steroids is nothing but a poor excuse. It's no more justified than saying Barry Bonds was 'pushed' into using steroids because he was pressured into doing it after watching McGuire and Sosa battle for the single-season home run record. There's something to be said about taking responsibility for one's actions.