Thread: Bush on Israel
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Old 01-14-2008, 08:55 AM   #23 (permalink)
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yeah, the problem ustwo seems to me that you're working from a very general view.
from there, it'd be hard to shift into thinking about factors that help no-one like the israeli settlement building policies and their consequences, the checkpoint systems and their consequences, the extent to which it is occupation/colonization in a context that offers no hope--at all--of conventional political redress that explains and drives the violence.

it makes some sense that from a viewpoint that collapes israeli politics into a range of options that placed likud in the center and sweeps over to more radical rightwing parties to the wholesale exclusion of anything else that the occupation/colonization dynamic would be seen as neutral or even reactive and the problems it creates all pinned on the palestinians...but that's about the range of political viewpoints easily available here and not about the situation.

we can think about this differently in part because we are not there and have no power.

so for example: do you seriously think that were the settlements to be suspended and if israel were to beging either dismantling them or turning some over to the palestinians that nothing would change?

do you really think that creating viable convetional political recourse for the palestinian people would change nothing?

why?
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