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Originally Posted by dlish
i somehow dont see this as clear cut as you do ustwo. you paint a picture that the only hurdle to peace is the palestinian fanatics.
you fail to recall their misery.
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I do, I really didn't fail to recall anything, just pointing out that there are two sides and its not as if the Palestinians have done their part and evil Israel has not. Israel has its fanatics yes, but its the Palestinians teaching their children that suicide bombing is a good thing. I could show you examples but the board doesn't allow pictures of children and I am not talking about that classic baby dressed as a suicide bomber photo from a few years ago. The Palestinians have become a pawn of the Islamic states who want to see continued conflict with Israel and the intifada is the means for this.
From my limited contact with a handful of Palestinians, they are all taught that Israel will be destroyed and its their duty to do so. At what point does 'fanatic' become 'general thought'? Undoubtedly many are able to throw off this propaganda, (from the schools and TV) as adults, and most won't want to die, but what is the motivation for this teaching, and if they want a peace agreement why do they allow it?
There is blame to pass around but while the US gets somehow blamed for supporting Israel, where is the blame to the Islamic powers who continue to fund and glorify terrorist action in Israel?
If you want to see real peace in the area, it won't come from the US, and outside of capitulation, won't come from Israel, it needs to come from Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, and other nations to a lessor extent. Instead we get holocaust denials and statements about Israels destruction.
Really who gives a crap what Bush says on this, lets here something and see something positive from the Islamic world and THEN we can hold out some hope, until then its a unilateral desire.