Originally Posted by Rekna

Seaver your post is so miss informed it doesn't suit you well.

First Murtha did not say the surge is working, look at the whole quote. He said some aspects of it is working but the purpose was to provide space for the government to make progress which it has not done. Which means it has failed. It is expected that if we put in more troops the violence would go down but if we removed the troops again what would happen?

Also Anbar province is not where the surge took place and its security improvements is a result of the tribal leaders turning on Iraq not the surge.