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Shauk · 01-12-2008, 10:57 PM

eh, welL i'm not NEW to this self promotion thing, I did it half assedly 7 years ago when I wasn't really sure of my ability to perform and I quickly realized that promoters and venue managers don't care if you're good or not, they only care if you have a following.

They perk up a lot more when you say "i can bring in 500 heads" vs "I have been playing for 5 years"

one of those puts $$$ in thier pockets and no matter how nice you are, thats what they care about when filling out a lineup.

That, that I understand....

I'm dealing less with the intricacies of dealing with owners and managers, they're easy, money talks.

it's the aspect of how you appeal to the average joe.

Theres all sorts of ad methods that people use. Sex appeal (female dj's enjoy this one more than males) Bandwagoning (omg i'm just like Tiesto: who is engaged to a 19 year old btw, hes 38, not that it matters) Peer Pressure (hey, i'm 6'6" and if I show up on your doorstep saying listen to my music, you better!) Incentivizing (Buy my cd and get tickets to my next show for free!)

so on and so on... I just don't really know where to start. I don't think the online methodology works starting out. Look at Ron Paul for instance. Too many eggs in the online basket. People want something tangible in their hands, they want to meet artists, they want signatures that are worthless but might mean something some day eh? They want cool logos and branding, they basically want you, as an artist, or self promoting act of any kind, to do all the work, you gotta work towards the people, and you gotta work towards the managers/owners.

I just still sit here going "huh" over the bio bit though.

and aberkok, yes, I hate those people who are like like "I sound like nothing you've ever heard before!" and you know it's a bunch of crap. ho hum, broken beat or 4/4 beat, i've heard it, sorry, bassline? synth riff? vocal track? it doesn't matter. You sound like something someone has done at least once. You just don't know who.

In my opinion it's probably better to fill out that "sounds like" field with as many artists as you can that you actually drew inspiration from. It's how people will find you online when they're looking for that similar influence.

anyways I'm ranting off my rocker here.

01-12-2008, 10:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
Shauk Confused Adult Location: Spokane, WA	eh, welL i'm not NEW to this self promotion thing, I did it half assedly 7 years ago when I wasn't really sure of my ability to perform and I quickly realized that promoters and venue managers don't care if you're good or not, they only care if you have a following. They perk up a lot more when you say "i can bring in 500 heads" vs "I have been playing for 5 years" one of those puts $$$ in thier pockets and no matter how nice you are, thats what they care about when filling out a lineup. That, that I understand.... I'm dealing less with the intricacies of dealing with owners and managers, they're easy, money talks. it's the aspect of how you appeal to the average joe. Theres all sorts of ad methods that people use. Sex appeal (female dj's enjoy this one more than males) Bandwagoning (omg i'm just like Tiesto: who is engaged to a 19 year old btw, hes 38, not that it matters) Peer Pressure (hey, i'm 6'6" and if I show up on your doorstep saying listen to my music, you better!) Incentivizing (Buy my cd and get tickets to my next show for free!) so on and so on... I just don't really know where to start. I don't think the online methodology works starting out. Look at Ron Paul for instance. Too many eggs in the online basket. People want something tangible in their hands, they want to meet artists, they want signatures that are worthless but might mean something some day eh? They want cool logos and branding, they basically want you, as an artist, or self promoting act of any kind, to do all the work, you gotta work towards the people, and you gotta work towards the managers/owners. I just still sit here going "huh" over the bio bit though. and aberkok, yes, I hate those people who are like like "I sound like nothing you've ever heard before!" and you know it's a bunch of crap. ho hum, broken beat or 4/4 beat, i've heard it, sorry, bassline? synth riff? vocal track? it doesn't matter. You sound like something someone has done at least once. You just don't know who. In my opinion it's probably better to fill out that "sounds like" field with as many artists as you can that you actually drew inspiration from. It's how people will find you online when they're looking for that similar influence. anyways I'm ranting off my rocker here.