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I guess that means that government is inherently bad and should be done away with.
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or you could just as easily argue that nationalism is nothing more than a displacement of christian style ideology.
this is a stupid game because all statements are reversible and no=one places their actual beliefs at stake when they play on a messageboard. it's more likely the contrary, that playing these tedious little games is a form of affirmation of the position you started from, no matter what gets said in response.
so all that seems to happen is demonstration after demonstration of the limits of syllogisms, those little automatic logic operations in which no matter how crappy the statements are which are introduced into the machinery, you can still use the machine to generate internally consistent results. and that you can confuse with a logical argument, because at the level of mechanics, it is.
that said, statements like the one i bit above still make me laugh and laugh.
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That sums up a lot of threads in politics, too.
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obviously.
for alot of folk political views serve the same function that for others religious views serve.
the problem underpinning both is basically what, in a more cynical moment, i'd probably call a servile relation to ideology.
and the trick with servility is that it is a way of life and so is transposable from space to space---and that there's no way to call that sort of thing into question in a debate, which is most often a space for repeating that servility and even managing to get some pleasure from it--and if there wasn't pleasure, there'd be more persuasive power behind any ideology. folk believe in god or dont because it gives them pleasure, even if only aesthetically--folk believe in neoliberalism because it makes them feel all manly, they believe in democratic socialism because it makes them feel compassionate on and on.
the real political problem is relations to ideology. you cant argue for or against a relation from within a framework that presupposes one.