Hmm, interesting. First of all, I don't think that all the bullshit Barney Badass power-tripping cop incidents end up being reported as blotched incidents. I'd assume that very few do, as most people just get railroaded and can do nothing about it. Do you think my case went down a blotched incident? I don't.
Anyway, regardless of the big picture in which police perform a great service appreciated by most, there are still incidents where misconduct happens. Those are the one's that need to be pointed out, not where the police do the right thing. We pay for them to do that. It is expected of them, and should happen no matter our level of appreciation.
In this particular case, my personal opinion is that all the officials in the matter were grossly out of line. Law books aside, I feel that nobody should have the right to determine a child's best interest other than the parent, except where the parent can be determined to have compromised the child's rights. I guess in this case it could be argued that the father had done just that, but I don't know how. Kid falls, parent reacts appropriately. End of story. Nobody else needs to be coming in questioning that.
I'm appalled by the idea that people need to look out for other people's parenting. This is the role of the parent. For instance, tonight on the way home from my daughter's tumbling class, she, my wife, and I stopped at a Wendy's to get some grub via the drive through. My daughters apparel was: shoes no socks, flannel pajama pants, a leotard, and a coat lined with fur. Well, apparently the drive through specialist didn't think this was sufficient for the mildly cold outdoor weather. She said, "You brought her out in pajamas."
"Yes, I'm taking her home from gymnastics in a warm truck, is there a problem?"
"No, I just thought it was a bit cold."
"How about that food I ordered?"
Who the hell does she think she is? My little girl was born and raised mostly in North Dakota. Ever been there? Its fucking cold, and by fucking cold I mean take your gloves and and get frostbite in a matter of seconds cold. She can handle the thirties in pajama pants, a coat, and a warm truck. So says the dad, one of only two sources that are in a position to make that decision.
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Originally Posted by shakran
I had a similar threat from a cop several years ago. Too bad I'm a photojournalist with his own betacam at home. I picked it up, flipped on the toplight and started recording, pulling the mic off and holding it out under the guy's chin. "Care to repeat that, sir?" Surprisingly enough he stopped when he realized it was gonna be documented.
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I'm surprised he didn't bust out the you can't record cops trump card, and try and arrest you.
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Originally Posted by Lasereth
Yes the police were assholes. That sucks.
Look at what happens to them every single day: they go to find out where someone is. The person at the door lies. The cops keep asking questions and eventually find the person at fault and the "fugitive" is actually in the house. Them being assholes turned up the fugitive.
This happens all the time. Cops have to treat people like that because more often than not, the person at the door IS lying. It sucks that nice, innocent people have to get that treatment as well, but if the cops have a better chance of turning up someone by drilling you, then that's what they have to do. There's no excuse for being downright rude, but when you get 500 calls a week about bullshit like this, being aggressive from the get go gets results much faster than playing nice guy and then busting down the door a week later and scaring the shit out of everyone.
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Doing what it takes to get results in perfectly acceptable, except when civil rights are not taken into account. I'll bet we could drop the crime rate significantly if we put all the American population in jail. Well, there is one problem. Fortunately our government allows that we are all innocent right up until we been proven beyond reasonable doubt to be guilty. So, until that is done I don't feel that anybody cop or otherwise should be able to circumvent my rights, even if it does yield positive results. In most cases, I'll add, this is not the case. Generally cops being assholes is not violating our rights, so it is ok. Vexing but ok. Once they cross the line though, whether it works or not, they are wrong.
Example: Patriot Act and various other ridiculous acts of government to remove rights. It seems that many people feel like it is ok to set personal rights aside as long as the result is positive. I happen to be more interested in freedom, and feel that those people should be deported, immediately, last stop the end of a plank, attached to a ship in the middle of the ocean.