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Old 01-08-2008, 07:37 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
I value the good ones, absolutely. It's the bad ones I have a problem with, unlike others who write them off as isolated incidents.
How are these incidents you post NOT isolated?

Must we replay your old "Zero faith in law enforcement anymore?"

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dksuddeth:
and yet, every single time I put up an article and bitch about how an officer got away with killing someone, i'm battered about the head and shoulders for ripping on cops and judges. What the hell do you guys want?

dc_dux:
Its not just the fact that you point out isolated examples of improper police or judicial conduct. What many find unreasonable is that you characterize these isolated examples as "huge breaches of authority" with a sweeping condemnation of law enforcement as well as your proposed solution of arming the populace rather than correcting the criminal justice system.

dksuddeth:
Look at http://www.cato.org/raidmap/ and then tell me it's a figment of my imagination.

dc_dux:
I looked at your map and using your state of Texas as an example, there were 25 incidents in 20 years (since 1985) of what Cato Institute calls "botched paramilitary police raids" (an interesting if not incendiary description).....thats 1.25/year.

To put it into perspective, there were over 1 million arrests in Texas in 2005 (FBI crime figures) and from the Cato examples, there would be an average of 1.25 "botched police raids" out of 1 million arrests.
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ubertuber:
Let me get this straight. From the source dksuddeth used, Texas averages 1.25 "botched paramilitary police raids" per year out of over 1 million arrests. Bearing in mind that not all police actions even result in arrests, that means that speaking aggressively, .00000125% of arrest procedures are classified as "botched paramilitary operations".
dk.....I havent seen anyone here condone illegal or improper behavior by police....but you have yet to explain how your latest incident from Colorado is NOT isolated? Your own Cato "raidmap" combined with FBI stats clearly show how isolated these "botch paramilitary police raids" really are.
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