dksuddeth, I suggest that you take down your "article", as it is not the "model" for the argument you are trying to make, at least not with that bit of news "coverage":
dksuddeth, I suggest that you take a look at your post, #21, on this thread:
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...84#post2337984
It is significant, because, directly before your post #21, on that thread, in post #20, I believe I did a fair job of demonstrating that the "reporter" whose "article" is the foundation for your last post here, is a christian fundamenatalist zealot POSING AS A REPORTER. WND, "reporter" Bob Unruh's employer, is not a news "service", it is a religious propaganda distribution service, with a fanatically biased owner/ editor...please read the entire post #20, above your post #21, linked above.
Please stop publishing "articles" from Unruh and from WND, unless they are backed by other sources...
Here's one...I've excluded all comments by Mr. Shiflett, and by the man who the WND article "reported" was a "family acquaintance". The following article, clearly shows who the unidentified "acquaintance" is, and, as we can see from his other "contributions" to the Post Independent, he is hardly an unbiased, or even a reliable source. His writings indicate that he is as extreme in his religious and secular opinions, as Mr. Shiflett:
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http://www.postindependent.com/artic...NEWS/248366321
County seizes son for medical care
By Pete Fowler
January 8, 2008
NEW CASTLE - The Garfield County All Hazards Response Team broke down Tom Shiflett's door Friday night and, following a court order, took his son for medical treatment....
...Jon still had a nasty-looking black eye and visible bruising on his face Monday after having been hurt in a fall on Thursday.
Jon injured himself by grabbing onto the handle of a moving car his sister was driving and falling. Shiflett and his family said Shiflett ran down the street, checked Jon for injuries and brought him back into their home, where they prayed, applied ice to his head and monitored his condition.
Someone - possibly a neighbor - called paramedics. Shiflett said paramedics looked at Jon after coming through an open front door uninvited. Shiflett told them he didn't want them to treat Jon and asked them to leave.
Friday morning, caseworkers from the Garfield County Department of Social Services arrived. Shiflett allowed them to look at Jon briefly but refused to allow them to take his son for treatment or medical evaluation....
....Community relations sheriff's deputy Tanny McGinnis said two deputies were first sent to notify Shiflett of a court order for his son's medical treatment and that Shiflett did not comply.
Phone messages to Vallario were not returned Monday afternoon.
A search warrant and order for medical treatment says there was good reason to believe Jon needed treatment. It states that two social services caseworkers tried to explain to Tom Shiflett they believed the boy needed medical treatment after observing injuries including a "huge hematoma" and a sluggish pupil. They offered to pay for treatment, and said they would have to obtain a court order for treatment if they couldn't get Shiflett's consent, the warrant says.
"Shiflett shouted at this worker and advised this worker that if he obtained a court order, he better 'bring an army,'" the warrant states.
A first responder with West Care Ambulance wrote in an affidavit that she and others in an ambulance crew also believed the boy needed medical treatment.
The responder wrote that paramedics left the residence for fear of their safety after Tom Shiflett refused to let them treat his son and became "verbally abusive" to the ambulance crew....
...Garfield County Director of Social Services Lynn Rennick said social services is legally required to intervene when it receives a report about possible mistreatment of children, and that sometimes court orders are necessary. She wouldn't discuss any specific case.....
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http://www.postindependent.com/artic...TTER/307310035
By Ross Talbott
August 1, 2003
Dear Editor,
Every time the subject of vouchers for private/Christian education comes up, the liberals scream using so-called "public money" to fund private education. I guess I must be sort of slow, and maybe someone could explain how my property tax (read "government lease") suddenly becomes "public money." About 60 percent of which goes to government schools, and then if I send my kids to private schools I pay again.
It seems as though I am forced to pay for your kids' education and then pay for mine also. Seems like double billing to me.
Private schools are turning out a much better product for less than half the cost of government schools. Why anyone would fight to send their kids to inferior schools and force me to pay for them defies credibility.
If we really believe in freedom, every legitimate American citizen would be guaranteed a voucher for 12 years of education at any school of their choice, and at any time in their life. That would truly be "the right to choose." Let freedom ring!
Ross Talbott
New Castle
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http://www.postindependent.com/artic...ISTS/107160035
Child labor laws are a contributing factor in illegal immigration problems
Out on a Limb
Ross L. Talbott
Glenwood Springs, CO Colorado
July 16, 2007
.......A second factor is the problem that temporary help or low wage help is almost impossible to find in our indigenous population.
Probably the largest single contributor to that problem is our child labor laws. They were noble intentions to protect children from unnecessary abuse and hardship. Nowadays there are many child protection systems in place, some of which are incredibly intrusive. I believe that child labor laws are no longer needed and are actually damaging to our culture and economy.
Young people do not learn good work habits and ethics. Apprenticeships are not available. Many young people I have hired take no responsibility in their jobs, and think nothing of just not showing up.
Government schools have promoted a culture of athletics, and teenagers who work are looked down on. The schools in Palisade used to wait until peach harvest was over, but now they don't even have grape and fruit worker needs on their radar screen. This huge pool of part-time help has been excluded from the labor market. The fruit industry now hires young people from China to Czechoslovakia. Wouldn't it be better if that payroll stayed in the United States?
I was driving tractors when I was 8 years old. This gave me a feeling of accomplishment and responsibility to the family. Now that money goes to Mexico. The illegal immigration problem is partly due to child labor laws.
Many families are having a difficult time making ends meet. Kids under the age of 14 can't even mow lawns, and are subject to so many limitations that they seldom can help out even when their parent is single or disabled.
Because of minimum wage laws, businesses, especially agriculture and service industries, are paying more and more for less and less.
Go in any restaurant or hotel and ask the waitress or other staff where they came from. Find out to what country your money is going.
"As the twig is bent, so grows the tree." Today's youth watch TV, wander the streets, party at each others' house or play sports. By comparison, consider that the U.S. Navy's first admiral, David Farragut, was given command of his first ship at age 12. Alexander Hamilton, who became the first Secretary of the Treasury at age 34, was a clerk in a counting house at age 13.
George Washington was Commander-in-chief of the Virginia Militia at age 23.
On the one hand, government schools strive to get control of children at an earlier age by promoting all-day kindergarten and preschool, and then they try to keep young people out of the work force.
Could there be some connection between our new youth culture and the need for illegal immigrants? Maybe it is also contributing to our negative balance of trade.
I say trash the child labor laws and give the responsibility back to parents. Give us freefrom!
Ross L. Talbott lives in New Castle.
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