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Originally Posted by host
You're concerned enough that you won't post "it".
You won't post it because of the risk that it is offensive to post it specifically for discussion of the only subject of the thread.
So, there's nothing to discuss, unless we post guesses until you reply, that's it, you've got it.
Either that, or you've already answered your own question, you only have to accept your own answer, as being the right one for you.
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I'm not concerned about posting it. I have specifically said, at least twice, that the reason I've not said what it is, is because it's not about the specific words. My question is broader and more important than simply playing judge and jury on one term. I know you all want to have something concrete so you can judge it and move on, but I think I've done well enough in causing some discussion, or at least getting people to put in their two cents (which means I made some people think) for this thread to already be a success.
I think there's plenty to discuss, and already IS being discussed. Just because I won't give you the term so you can pick it apart doesn't mean the larger question is without merit.
You're also all projecting a lot of heavy feelings onto me that I don't have for this topic. I'm not mentally deficient- I don't need anyone else, let alone a message board, to help me determine if I find something personally acceptable to say, or not. I just think a lot of you are putting WAY too much into this, simply because I won't give you the term... so you are grinding your gears in other directions, instead.
If nothing else, and it was not intended to be so, this has been a great social experiment. If I'd planned it to be one, I'm not sure I could have made it better. You're all getting very uppity with me about this in all kinds of different ways because you don't have the term to pick apart and judge. The broad question was about how we, as people, use labels and stereotypes... and if a label is still racist/sexist/whatever if it's actually true.
Keep the comments coming, this is going well.
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Originally Posted by Frosstbyte
I know you're trying to ask a question without using the specific term to avoid any aspersions it would cast on you to bring it up and to get a general answer, but I really think the whole discussion is pointless without it.
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Oh, no... I don't think anyone here would ever cry racist on me. I'm not worried about how it'd be perceived.
I wish I'd just asked the broader question by itself, and not even used the term's existence as an example... because now apparently people are confused that
1. it actually offends me
2. it contains a racial slur in itself, which I might somehow (?) be on the fence about
3. this thread is actually about the term, itself.
None of the above are true. I just find its usage a little unnecessary, and that's all.
Also: in my field, a lot of seemingly callous behavior is totally normal because that's the coping mechanism. Being on the outside, I'm afraid you'd all see it as horrible and the discussion would be over before it began. Everyone might just say "oh that's terrible" and that's not a discussion.
I think what we have going so far is a nice start.
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Originally Posted by Push-Pull
If you read this thread closely, there seems to be a social studies lesson buried within.
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I noticed that as well, and commented on it above.
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Interesting to note, it *seems* that we're tap-dancing around the term in question. Only one person in this thread has posted the term I think the OP had in mind, and it hasn't been repeated yet.
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No, no one has been even remotely close, and it's not "white trash". I doubt anyone outside a medical field would ever have heard it. It's not really a normal term.