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Originally Posted by willravel
How is McKinney worse than Kucinich:
1) She attacked Al Gore. It was baseless and tactless and showed that she not only is spiteful without evidence, but is more than willing to push the race card to get attention. This is disgusting.
2) Tupoc Shakur records act? Can we waste more money on something more inconsequential? I doubt it. The MLK Records Acts makes a bit more sense. What's next, the "Oh dude, I think I saw Elvis at a gas station outside of San Antonio!" Act? Yeesh. Kucinich may have odd things to spend money on, but he explains all of them and they all make sense to me.
3) She's overweight. While one may not consider this when voting, I sure as hell do. People who are overweight are more likely to get a plethora of physical problems from diabetes to cardiac arrest.
Kucinich, on the other hand, is in very good physical condition for his age.
But honestly? She's not a bad candidate. She was a strong feminist when we needed one, she wants the facts on 9/11, she STRONGLY opposes the Iraq War and wants the assholes in the oval office impeached, she's against many of the actions of the Israeli state (though I don't agree with all her views on Jewish people), and she worked as hard as anyone for Katrina victims. She's just not representing enough of my philosophies and understandings to trump Kucinich, Gravel or Obama.
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Gravel is too old and has some attributes that struck me as negatives, I'll post them if it matters, and IMO, Obama's commitment to increases in the size of the military and on it's spending, disqualify him as a progressive candidate. Every extra dollar he proposed to spend is borrowed, and comes at the expense of so many already pressing national problems.
will, I think you could be wrong about the attack on Gore, anti Gore media pushed that story with a vengeance:
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http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...pagewanted=all
THE 2000 CAMPAIGN: THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDACY; A Populist Pitch Helps Gore Woo Back His Party's Base
By JAMES DAO
Published: September 9, 2000
...To be sure, relations between liberals and Mr. Gore, a longtime leader of the party's centrist wing, are not entirely smooth. For instance, Representative Cynthia A. McKinney, a Georgia Democrat who has criticized the lack of black agents on Mr. Gore's Secret Service detail, asserted in a statement last month that the vice president's ''Negro tolerance level has never been too high.'' The statement was issued in response to a civil suit brought by three black Secret Service agents against the government. Ten black agents last week called on Mr. Gore to show ''moral leadership'' on the matter.
Asked about the statement today, Ms. McKinney disavowed it, calling it a draft never intended for release....
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...and right about Kucinich:
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http://thedartmouth.com/2007/02/19/news/kucinich/
Kucinich: cut defense spending, recall troops
By William Schpero, The Dartmouth Staff
Published on Monday, February 19, 2007
Criticizing the government's current focus on war as a constraint on its power to deal with social issues, current presidential hopeful and former presidential candidate Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, spoke to a packed Hinman forum Sunday night in an event sponsored by the Rockefeller Center and the Dartmouth College Democrats. The congressman used the time to highlight his own plan for the Iraq conflict and to touch on a variety of issues ranging from universal healthcare and education to environmental policy and civil liberties. "We're cutting money for education and healthcare, housing, all of these things are being cut, and more money is going to the military," Kucinich said. "I would move to effect a 15 percent across-the-board cut in Pentagon spending." Article continues on TheDartmouth.com at: http://thedartmouth.com/2007/02/19/news/kucinich/ ?>
Criticizing the government’s current focus on war as a constraint on its power to deal with social issues, current presidential hopeful and former presidential candidate Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, spoke to a packed Hinman forum Sunday night in an event sponsored by the Rockefeller Center and the Dartmouth College Democrats. The congressman used the time to highlight his own plan for the Iraq conflict and to touch on a variety of issues ranging from universal healthcare and education to environmental policy and civil liberties.
“We’re cutting money for education and healthcare, housing, all of these things are being cut, and more money is going to the military,” Kucinich said. “I would move to effect a 15 percent across-the-board cut in Pentagon spending.”...
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I don't think that this was a fair criticism of Kucinich....it tried to pin hypocrisy on him that the amount of money he attempted to earmark, was too small to fairly label him:
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http://public.cq.com/docs/cqt/news110-000002575803.html
CQ TODAY – DEFENSE
Aug. 29, 2007 – 11:54 a.m.
Pentagon Critics Still Want a Share of Defense Earmarks
By John M. Donnelly, CQ Staff
The House’s most outspoken critics of what they say is unnecessary military spending would secure nearly half a billion dollars in the defense appropriations bill for programs in their districts the Pentagon does not want.
..... Bringing Defense Money Home
Kucinich has frequently decried spending for projects that are not militarily useful. During an Aug. 19 presidential debate, for example, he advocated shifting $75 billion from what he called “that bloated, wasteful Pentagon budget” toward education programs.
And since 2005, Kucinich has pushed legislation (HR 808) that would establish a Department of Peace and Nonviolence.
Kucinich voted against the Defense appropriations bill, but not before convincing the committee to include in it $1 million for a “highpower, lightweight zinc-air battery” made by Energizer Battery Manufacturing Inc., in Westlake, Ohio, which is in his district.
Kucinich did not return calls requesting comment........
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So, here's one candidate who I agree is probably no worse than, and possibly, even a better choice for US president in 2008, than Cynthia McKinney. Thank you, will. I've been so focused on the three democratic frontrunners' positions on defense spending, that I overlooked Kucinich. |