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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
which side is irrelevant to the question I was asking.
You said "Many of the warning signs that someone may be capable of murder can be detected earlier in life and steps can be taken to curb said behavior before it even becomes violent." but you also say that even if one kills in self defense, that's murder, so what I see you saying is that you can 'cure' the desire to commit murder, even self defense killings. Do I have that right?
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I see it more as removing the temptation. Those that invade the home or commit whatever crime one believes warrants murderous protection are the initial problem. If, by some miracle, the right combination of social programs are developed in order to identify and assist children who display patterns that could lead to destructive behavior, and thus criminals become a rarity... then there's really no one to shoot. The excuse of "well what if a criminal breaks in" goes from extreme to insane. Let's say hypothetically that somehow just the right programs are put in to place. Criminality begins to drop off in a few years and continues until it's at record lows. The US suddenly has the lowest crime rates in the Western world. Let's say there are maybe a dozen murders a year in the whole country for several years, home invasions are almost as rare. Shootings are almost unheard of aside from accidents. How often will a homeowner need to shoot a home invader?
The problem would fix itself. Not only that, but I see these, aggressive murderers and defensive murderers, as different problems with different causes.