I'll rudely interrupt here and put my 2¢, without reading much else, and am probably reading it all wrong.
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Originally Posted by Sedecrem
I wanted to get peoples thoughts on the position of the so-called Science vs Religion debate.
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The debate, to me, is just, "I see religious people doing a lot of bad things." Religion itself isn't the problem, lack of tolerance and understanding is.
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It seems that science now has enough evidence to win the war but Theism still persists. What is is about Theism that allows it to survive in an age where Science has disproved (a debate topic on its own) all of it's claims? By rights Theism should no longer exist, it no longer offers anything to the world or society. It simply does more damage than good.
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What evidence, where? Don't answer this, I really don't care to argue it, as I am sure I will encounter it again somewhere. While can I imagine many mysteries of the Bible have somewhere been disproved or shown to have been coincidence... how do you disprove something that cannot yet be observed?
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I would like to hear peoples thoughts on this subject. I am inclined to think that Theism persists in those who haven't had their consciousness raised to consider what it is they are truly doing, in those who are too undereducated to know better or in those who persist in the face of this adversity because they have been taught since birth that blind faith is a virtue and are in too much of a child like mindset (or trapped in their societal upbringing) to consider reason.
What do you think?
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Personally: engineering student, and all around fact finder. Love the debate. Yeah, religion does it's fare share of damage to people and culture, but that isn't the problem. The problem is people take belief so far and forget that there are basic rules
we ought to follow outside of what the book says (I am recalling the thoughts of Kant at this point).
I prefer a mystery, and that is why I don't call it God. I've expressed this many times before, I thought here, and I am doing so again. We can't know anything. We observe.