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Old 01-01-2008, 07:13 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Sedecrem
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You mention the non-overlapping magisteria (that science and religion can occupy separate areas). Science deals with what exists based on evidence. If one then suggests that a God or Gods exist than that places the claim within the realms of science.
That's only if you accept the proposition that science is capable of explaining everything, i.e. that the realms of science are infinite, a proposition which has just as much a basis in science as a belief in god.

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In regard to a later post, give me one logical reason or argument that can show that god exists.
Axiom: The machinations of the universe are too complex to have come about on their own

Logical Conclusion: There must exist some creating diety

I'm not saying it's compelling, but it is logical.

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Also: string theory is a theory that is highly debated in science and is mostly kept to the outskirts. String theory does sometimes seem illogical and that is why i dislike it. Because some scientists think this way with a lack of proof does not show that non-critical thinking can lead to truth.
String theory is exceedingly logical. It's all math. I think if you are going to frame your argument from a scientific perspective you'd benefit from refining your word choices. The word logical has a specific meaning and that meaning isn't "someone who comes to the same conclusions about the nature of existence as me". Logic concerns itself with the relationships between a series of statements and has nothing to do with whether the underlying assumptions of those statements are scientifically valid.

Furthermore, if you are going to allude to the concept of "critical thought" you should define it precisely, otherwise you aren't really making a "scientific" argument. I asked ustwo to do this above, but he apparently got too busy.

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Again: Theism is not consistent and its claims are indeed illogical.
Only if you use your own definitions of the words theism, consistent and logic.

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