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Originally Posted by willravel
The things we discuss here have real world consequences, though.
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As far as I can see no, they don't.
The things we discuss are have no more real world consequences than discussing the sports score.
Maybe and its a BIG maybe, a few votes may change because of this, but for the most part, nothing but pissing in the wind.
We are discussing these events as bit players, with only the most minor of influence. Pretty much everyone is making pronunciations on policy with absolutely no real inside information. For a while I had a friend working for two democrat senators, I got a lot of inside information but it was mostly fluff and character stuff, the real policy stuff he was in the dark as well on.
If TFP never existed nothing perceptible in real politics would change. Now maybe there is some great future parasite, er politician among us, but soon we get into just the infinite possibilities of life.
So it is just a game here no matter how mad you would get. Hell if hosts view of what the US should be became real I would be shooting people trying to make it so. This isn't internet tough guy bravado, its just a statement belief, some things are worth killing and dying for and not living under what would inevitably become a repressive totalitarian state is one of them.
But... because this is in fact only a debate club I'm not going to be checking the ammunition when he speaks of the coming revolution. Nor am I going to get upset when some kids barely out of school tell me how things 'should be' and how wrong I am.
I'm with loquitur on this about taking politics be too important to me. This was a conscious choice, it was either take a step back and stop complaining about stuff I wasn't going to get changed or become a very bitter person not fun to be around at cocktail parties.
Its been rather nice, and I've only dipped my toe back in by posting here, I'd far rather talk about the philosophies behind the beliefs then cleave rabbits on the specifics.