Oh no, the NASCAR analogy.
(once again, it's late, and I'm a bit slap-happy, but here goes...)
I'm wondering, is the concept of solution-centric discussion less appealing to some because it's like watching NASCAR without crashes? I don't mean that in a demeaning or derogatory sense, but some may engage strictly for the adrenaline rush or in anticipation of something vicariously dramatic. With NASCAR there are fiercely loyal fans with cultish attachment to drivers and racing teams, the enthusiasts of the technology and strategy, those who just like cars and going fast, the exhibitionists and people watchers, and those who just want to see crashes. Drama.
Even solution-centric political discussion can be dramatic... because we struggle to achieve something beyond winning today's pissing match.
...speaking of struggling, I'm out of gas
If this was too strange, I'll take a look at it tomorrow.
BTW - great thread everyone! Kind of amazing stuff. So after this is played out, how do we proceed without returning to old habits? Is the concept of this thread practical in application? I'd like to see the spirit of this concept take root however it evolves.