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Old 12-29-2007, 10:50 PM   #20 (permalink)
tiger777
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Originally Posted by Sedecrem
I am a strong Atheist and Scientist, and would like Theism to be eliminated. I wanted to get peoples thoughts on the position of the so-called Science vs Religion debate.

It seems that science now has enough evidence to win the war but Theism still persists. What is is about Theism that allows it to survive in an age where Science has disproved (a debate topic on its own) all of it's claims? By rights Theism should no longer exist, it no longer offers anything to the world or society. It simply does more damage than good.

I would like to hear peoples thoughts on this subject. I am inclined to think that Theism persists in those who haven't had their consciousness raised to consider what it is they are truly doing, in those who are too undereducated to know better or in those who persist in the face of this adversity because they have been taught since birth that blind faith is a virtue and are in too much of a child like mindset (or trapped in their societal upbringing) to consider reason.

What do you think?
The reason why religion still exists is because humans generally tend to follow their traditions. Therefore when a great deal of people are religious and have been for thousands of years and their parents tell them to believe in their religion etc, there's a high probability that child will follow in line. Also I don't think countries have sufficient teaching in areas such as logic, reason and critical thinking. They generally just try to feed you information and promote memorizing things rather than teaching the concepts behind them so you can logically come to conclusions of your own.

Also another problem is it is impossible to prove if God exists or does not exist. Independent reality isn't available to us since everything is subjective to us because we are stuck with the limited sensory ability we have. Objects come to us purely from our senses we would have no knowledge of them without our ability to perceive them. Just as when we listen to our ipod, the music comes from our ipod, it isn't the actual music it's just reenacting the event that it recorded with it's limited capabilities. Thus the true nature and reality of everything we observe and experience will forever be hidden from us because we are a slave to our senses. In the empirical world scientific explanations are the highest truth we can achieve. They don't necessary entirely explain everything but they are the best thing we've got to work with. Imagine we are a baseball mitt and there are balls flying around everywhere, we don't catch them all, some pass by our grasp due to the fact that our mitt isn't infinitely large, there are certain things we cannot catch due to our limited capabilities to do so.

Last edited by tiger777; 12-29-2007 at 10:54 PM..
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