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From Roachboy:<br><br>the typical argument between conservatives and others really involves the question of who gets to control the frame of reference on a particular topic.
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Well, sure. Absolutely true. But the reason that is true is because there are competing values, and the "side" that gets to frame the debate in terms of its own preferred set of values will usually control the discourse. That doesn't mean that the choice of which values to use isn't a matter of opinion - it has to be. And the decision you ultimately make will come down to a matter of which values you find more important.
I do a lot of reading, and the reason is that I always want to be checking my premises. I resist visceral reactions on most things (though some things I just won't tolerate, bigotry being the biggest one). My reaction normally is, "give me more information."