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Originally Posted by jewels443
I'm truly shocked that a medical professional would say something like this. I don't have stats on the odds, but when you're exponentially and literally fucking with others' lives, that's not politically incorrect, it's morally reprehensible..
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I think he was putting into perspective for her.
Well, according to this link, your odds of contracting HIV in a hetrosexual encounter are about 1 in 5 million.
You have better odds of getting stung to death by bees.
I'm not saying not to be careful, but I am saying that you need to keep things in perspective.
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_373.html
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Originally Posted by jewels443
What an irrelevant question. How many women have been unknowingly sleeping with men who have had gay relationships or women that didn't know they had AIDS? Or vice versa? Please don't take this lightly. The gay population is more aware and protective than the straight population, whose numbers are and have been on the rise.
Annoy the clinics and get overtested. I know too many, straight and gay, that have already gone, and others who live with it from day to day.
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No, you should not be annoying the clinics. They are there to do a job and they can't do that job if every little straight girl or boy is in there every 2 months because they want to have sex with someone new and they want their papers.
It's ironic that the message about HIV has definitely gotten out there, but one of the byproducts of that message is that people who have almost 0 chance of having HIV are clogging up the clinics so badly that the people who truly do have a higher chance of contracting HIV can't get in the door.
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Originally Posted by Strange Famous
but of course, what james t kirk says is framed in a way not to state fact, but prejudice.... and should be criticised And the statement that an HIV test can only be given after 3 months is totally factually false. Tests can be done immediately that are far over 99% accurate.
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Look buddy,
Here's a little fill in for you (with all due respect)
Toronto has the second highest gay population in North America next to San Franciso.
The Hassle Free Clinic is THEE source on HIV testing in a city of 5 million people.
If they say that it takes 3 months to get a reliable reading on an HIV infection, I'm going to put my faith in them.
Since you obviously didn't click on my link, I'll excerpt it for you to make it clear where my statements are coming from (based on my own testing experience at HF.)
HFC always attempts to accommodate as many people as possible. However, because of the ever increasing demand, it is our policy to screen individuals requesting an HIV appointment to limit the number of unnecessary tests, especially for individuals who are at no or low risk for HIV transmission, and those who repeat their tests too often. Moreover, some clients are unaware of the window period for HIV testing.
To ensure the test is accurate, individuals are encouraged to wait three months after the last high-risk sexual encounter (anal or vaginal intercourse without a condom, condom breakage, shared sex toy or needle contact). Screening is conducted by trained personnel in as general a way as possible so as not to intrude on the client’s confidentiality. As many clients are unaware of the high-risk activities for HIV transmission and the window period, the screening process can be a useful educational process.
We encourage annual testing for individuals who are sexually active. People who have had no unprotected penetrative sex or only engage in low-risk sexual activities (such as oral sex) may not require as frequent testing. Individuals who may still have concerns and would like to get tested are encouraged to test with their doctor, or at any of the other anonymous testing sites.
Here's the link.....
http://www.hasslefreeclinic.org/HIVPolicy.html
Now, it may be that in the UK, there is some more sophisticated test than the nation of Canada is aware of. That might be true. (But I doubt it.)