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Old 12-28-2007, 07:20 AM   #56 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Elphaba
Host has been belittled, mocked and criticized by both mods and members from the day he joined tfp.
IMO This statement is exactly why we need to reexamine how debate is conducted on Politics. That kind of behavior is highly unfortunate and host is not the only one who gets slammed. By the same token, host sometimes does his fair share of slamming (possibly as a defence mechanism? a zealous reaction? who knows).

If you want this to not be all about host, then perhaps you should stop bringing him up. For instance, here are some quick questions on the topic...would you like to address any of these or pose some of your own?
  • What is it about any post that draws such anger and insensitivity? Is it the desired response of the author? Can we truly know this kind of motivation and can this motive be productive anytime?
  • Have we fostered an environment where we can't propose something controversial without getting slammed for just bringing it up?
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Originally Posted by Elphaba
Can I make this anymore obvious to host's detractor's? Simply walk away.
For myself, and in general, I will continue to ignore any thread that is authored as an intentionally disguised, yet thoroughly researched political spin piece. However, on other threads, It may be difficult for some to not engage others that inject themselves with extreme and voluminous bias. Although data may be accurate in some context, when the message is crafted without attention to actual context, balance, or historical precedence, others will take that author to task. Hopefully in a civil manor.
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Originally Posted by Elphaba
I can't think of a greater injustice, when u2 was applauded today by a mod for making one acceptable post.

If this topic is about host, applaud him rather than ridicule him. If this topic is about problems with the Politics forum, CAN WE PLEASE MOVE ON?
I'm not sure where ustwo was applauded anywhere on this thread, but anyway...

Elphaba, do you mean could we please move on with discussing problems on Politics, or just move on in general?
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