shakran

This can be reversed. I personally find it interesting how much credit God gets without having to take any of the blame. "Oh thank God! We prayed and He saved our house from the wildfire!"
Uhh, what about all those other houses full of praying people that got burned down
"It's all part of His plan!"
So if everything happens according to His plan, why bother praying?
"..."

Trouble is, it's generally the religious groups who run around claiming that science claims to deal in exact fact. The scientists sure as hell don't say it.

What baffles me is the level of evidence required in science vs. religion. We had to have overwhelming evidence that gravity exists before it became a scientific law. And it's still being looked at constantly for refinement and sometimes radical change.

In general, religion does not require ANY evidence. "It says so in the bible, therefore it must be 100% true," is good enough.

It baffles me why people continue to claim there is evidence of God. There is absolutely no evidence that there is a god. The bible is not evidence. It's a single source, written thousands of years ago after being passed down orally for thousands more. It is next to impossible that the version we read today is at all accurate.

Of course, I don't understand WHY people run around claiming there is and must be evidence that God exists. No there isn't, and no there mustn't. It's called faith, not science, for a reason folks.

What? Time is man-observed. It is not man-made. It is not even man-understood, as we can perceive it in such a limited fashion.

Well that would be ridiculous. Fortunately that's not how they do it

Erm. No.

Have you not discounted science when it comes to the existence or lack thereof of God? Why, then, are you now running to science to prove your point for you? Be brave! Be like the athiests. You don't see them saying "Well I won't believe in God 95% of the time but when I REALLLLLLYYYY want something I'll pray," why then should you let them see you saying such about science?

You see, there can only be ONE truth. /// I also practice buddhist principals,[/quote]

These two statements are in direct conflict with one another.

And for what higher purpose does God exist? Does he have a higher power to look up to? If not, is HIS existence meaningless

I can go down to Barnes and Noble and get that many books written this decade that point out the flaws of the bible. . .


I will avoid making a crack about his actual wisdom

Where did you get that, first off. And your argument is so generalized as to be meaningless. By what you're saying the FACT that anything exists is a miracle. The fact that a pornographic magazine exists is no more or less of a miracle under your concept than the fact that the bible exists.



You also act as though the big bang theory and god are mutually exclusive. The bible says god created the world and the heavens. So did the big bang. Ever think maybe the big bang was touched off by God?

I find the likelihood that God exists as is written in the bible, or the koran, or any other religion, to be exceedingly remote. And frankly, if the bible is accurate then God is a needlessly cruel sociopathic jerk. What kind of gentle, loving god would let millions of little kids starve in a miserable existance in the 3rd world? What kind of loving god would allow Hitler to succeed? What kind of loving god would hunt up a father, and tell him he had to kill his own kid to prove he had faith in God? This is the kind of shit that, if you and I did it, they'd lock us up and throw away the key. To be quite frank, if God is as he is portrayed in the bible, I want nothing to do with him.

I'd much rather think, and hope, that if there is a god, that he is a genuinely good god, and not one who gets off on creating creatures and then torturing them in little games that, while they may be amusing to a "higher" being, are really nothing more than cruel torture of the highest degree.