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Originally Posted by willravel
That's just it, though. If you're trained with a gun, you know that if you shoot, you shoot to kill. 'Neutralization' would be incapacitating. Shooting is likely to kill. I'm for everyone having tasers/mace/big dog/etc. I'm for everyone having a big door with a dead bolt.
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I haven't tried a taser, but I'll give you $100 if you can hit me with mace or a stun gun and drop me before I can disarm you and put you on the ground. Dogs make noise, but a kick to the face will kill it or knock it out, and someone who has no respect for another's property is probably not the type to care about hurting or killing a dog. Killing in self defense is a last resort, but it's an option.
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Originally Posted by Crompsin
Second point: Arguing fault is like arguing the shape of the universe. You can do it, but no one can ever really be 100% sure.
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I can be 100% sure. If someone is accidentally shot while someone defends against home invaders, it's the fault of the criminals because no shots would be fired if they weren't there to make the owner feel that he needed to defend himself with lethal force.
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
"...the World Health Organization [found] that 40-70% of female murder victims in Australia, Canada, Israel, South Africa and the United States were killed by intimate partners."
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Well, since murder and self-defense are completely different things, I don't see how that is at all relevant to this thread.
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
I'm of the understanding that the "freezing up" is that brief moment when the mind and body are going into overdrive. The body is pumping full of adrenaline and the mind is gearing up for that ultimate decision: fight or flight.
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Freezing up is normal, but I don't see it as a reason to not learn to defend yourself.
As for me, I'm one of the large percentage of ADHD people whose brain structure is different enough that the freeze and panic reflexes are skipped and I go right into response mode. I've seen a few bad car accidents and other serious things happen, and I had always punched in 911 and hit send on my phone before everything stopped moving. One of my friends (also ADHD) is the same way, and he's a firefighter. I think peoples' immediate responses to any emergency situation is an interesting thing to study and analyze, far beyond the typical bystander effect and diffusion of responsibility that is covered in psychology 101.
And I also want to see Crompsin vs. Buddhist Monks. It might even make Human Weapon worth watching.