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Originally Posted by Strange Famous
something red,I have answered every point put to me, and all of the fanatical MMA supporters have just brought up new and stranger arguments as I demolish the previous ones.
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Are you serious? You haven't answered half the points put to you and haven't demolished anything other than your credibility to judge MMA as a sport and the fighters as athletes.
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Despite several claims, I have shown the boxing remains a force in popular culture, that MMA is a fad and an extreme sport with a loyal but ethnically and socio-economically limited fanbase.
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Once again are you serious? You haven't shown MMA to be a fan, maybe in your world you have but certainly not in this thread.
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Who really supposed that "da champ" is anyone but the hevayweight champion of the world? Not a grappler, a boxer.
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Anyone who holds a title is 'da champ' in that certain sport and that certain weight class, it's time to stop thinking the heavyweight champ is the ultimate man, those days are long gone.
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Royce Gracie may have some degree of fame. Muhammad Ali is one of the 100 most recognisable faces in all human history.
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No one has claimed Gracie is Ali, nice try though. He is to MMA what ALI was to boxing though, a pioneer and a person who furthered the sport.
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Boxing is the sweet science, the aim is for two manly competitors to place their skills, courage, and strength against each other in a contest governed by the Queensbury rules.
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Same as the aim in MMA, only they have their own rules to govern the sport, just because you disagree with the rules doesn't make it any less of a sport.
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MMA is simply a couple of guys (who may be louts or may be skilled "brazillian wrestlers") throwing cheap shots and trying to tear the other one's tendons and make them quit.
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That's YOUR opinion of MMA you are welcome to it.
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There is little skill to MMA past the intermediate level. The techniques of grappling are not simple, but they are also very limited - and anyone who commits to train for 6 months in it can gain enough mastery to be able to beat any MMA champ in the lottery of a couple of guys trying to twist each other;s arms as they roll around on the floor.
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I suspect the people here who train in grappling will destroy this argument of yours, although I will say it's obvious you have no idea what you are talking about when grappling is involved, utterly clueless.
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I call it the proof that it is simply a street fight with a few basic rules to allow it onto TV, and the winner is determined by luck as much as skill, strength and fitness (there is no need to speak of courage at all)
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Any fight can be won by luck, it's what is called the punchers chance, or have you never heard of this? I guess you like watching predetermined fights.
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ANY World Champion boxer could beat any MMA fighter with 6 months training in MMA.
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Once again, your opinion, putting words in capitals don't make it fact.
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Even today, as MMA enjoys its fad... a champion boxer will earn 10 times more for a title fight. If the scrappers of MMA had the sufficient skill and manliness, they would surely box and aim for higher prizes - both financial and in terms of honour.
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Manliness? They are going out there and fighting just like boxers, really don't think you're a good judge of what is or isn't manly. Although would be funny to see you tell an MMA fighter he isn't manly.
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But they are men who choose to be fish in a smaller pond.
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They're in the biggest pond in their sport if they're in the UFC, boxing isn't the same pond as MMA, totally different sport.