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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
But, in a worst-case scenario, I'd probably grab the medium-sized houseplant we have on a table next to the bed.
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Would it say something ironic like: "FEED ME, SEYMOUR!" ?
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Originally Posted by moot1337
*Steyr pistol fan digression*
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Warning... SUPER DUPER INITIAL-PART-OF-RESPONSE THREADJACK GO!
Moot... flattery is confusing. Yeah, I know a few things about firearms and their use. I'm very sane and do everything in my life with moderation. Defense of myself and others was quite literally my job for four years and I won't lie: I got to be pretty good at it. What I won't do is get into any "I'm-the-expert" pissing matches with any self-proclaimed badass... I've served my time in hell. Humility is the distinguishing quality in those who've experienced and those who blow hot air out of their face-mounted assholes.
The Steyr S series were too small for my taste, the M series was a perfect compact pistol IMO. Small, heavy slide, awesome ergonomics. My M357 was "just right" as a small pistol will full-size power. Man, the barrel axis was WAY LOW and that thing was an absolute tack driver with any ammo brand. Sexy!
I like .357 Sig lots. .357 Sig is a potent sleeper cartridge that'll never do well commercially but has many excellent qualities. .40 is the future, I figure.
I don't like the new MA1 models. The addition of the standard rail was nice (and logical) but I really loathe how they did away with the Garand-style safety and how they altered the pistol grip. The easy-to-use manual safety and the loaded chambered indicator on the back (so you could feel it with your thumb) that pistol better than a Glock or XD... hands freakin' down.
Thanks for the CDNN tip. I've bought a lot of crap off them over the years. I might snag a .40 from them so I have another .40 for my years in fed LE.
/threadjack
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Originally Posted by fire
there are quite a few experts that dislike long guns for use in ones home, even carbine sized pistol caliber models- this due to the advantage of having a hand free to do stuff like use a phone, and the fact that a long gun is much easier to snatch, and harder to move around with it- not such a big deal if your weapon has a light, and a lot of carbines are much shorter than anything available before , but still something to consider - If you are military trained with a carbine its probably better to use what you know, and I am not sure if all the experts have thought of all the angles now that pretty much everything has a tac rail and a folding stock- I still would not want to try to clear a house with grandads goose gun though.......
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I don't wanna play that asinine game of "my kungfu is better than yours" but... why not? Discussion and debate turn me on.
CARBINE vs. PISTOL - READY? FIGHT!
Carbines are just big pistols. It shoots the same rounds as your pistol (sidearm), and often can take the exact same magazines (Keltec, Beretta, Marlin). It weighs slightly more due to receiver / barrel... but not enough to be unwieldy with one hand. The Keltec Sub-2000 and Beretta CX4 have proven to be easy one-handers.
Carbines have three points of contact on your body as you move and shoot with 'em. The firing hand, supporting hand, and the shoulder. This means more accurate fire, more stable fire, and makes you capable of faster shots due to recoil dissipation directly into body.
Carbines can be equipped with a sling that allows for easy one-handed manipulation by pushing the weapon away from the body a la "MP5K PDW."
Carbines have a large capacity magazine option, can mount a flashlight, and electronic optics, thus offering that increasing grab-just-one-thing option. Don't forget to tape your cellphone to the folding stock, though.
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The modern carbine is almost always superior to the pistol in home defense situations. What is not superior, 99 times out of 100, is how it is improperly utilized. Poor tactics. All of this is quite irrelevant of course... as a warrior smith, you already know this:
Training makes the warrior, not weapons. The tools change, the man doesn't.
As
Baraka_Guru, my new age Canadian Jesus, has said in this thread... I like to grab reality before I ever equip myself with crude tools that man has invented to solve the infinitesimal number of life problems that cannot be resolved by a good man with a cool head.
Threads like this make me kinda sad inside. I'm not sure if I can explain it.