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Old 12-21-2007, 09:39 PM   #149 (permalink)
james t kirk
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Welcome to the rewards of promoting multiculturalism and rejecting the melting pot concepts of immigration.

They come to nations for a better life, while bringing the culture that made life in their lands suck to begin with.
I read ahead in the posts till I read Xephries, but, I'm coming back to this post.

I agree with Ustwo.

The murder of this girl is an example of how some cultures in this world are indeed fucked up. Sorry to be politically incorrect, but cutting off women's clitorises, and honour killings for not wearing the appropriate garb is just plain crazy.

Why anyone would want to import any such culture to North America is beyond me.

I'm all for multiculturalism when it comes to food, or restaurants. After that, I'll take my western civilization complete with the separation of church and state and equal rights for all thank you very much.

Xephries, fascinating post by the way.

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Originally Posted by skada
They may do different but they do not talk/write about it in public. I don't see any arranging a conference on how the Book is all lies ...
Some do, but they end up with a dagger sticking out of their chest.

Or living in fear like Irshad Manji who wrote "The trouble with Islam."

http://www.irshadmanji.com/

This week in Toronto a 16-year-old Muslim girl was murdered, allegedly by her own father.

Aqsa Parvez told friends and adults at her public high school that she feared what her father would do if she stuck by her decision to reject the hijab — the Islamic headscarf. She also said it’s better to live in a shelter than at home.

Nobody listened. Now she’s dead.

Moderate Muslims have warned that we shouldn’t leap to conclusions. Who knows what other dynamics infected her family, spout hijab-hooded mouthpieces on Canadian TV. Not once have I heard these upstanding Muslims say that whatever the “family dynamics,” killing is not a solution. Ever. How’s that for basic morality?

Of course, mainstream Muslims will argue that I’m the one who needs to learn basic morality. After all, they’ll say, the Qur’an obligates pious women to wear the hijab.

Not quite. The Qur’an asks women and men to dress modestly. That could mean wearing long sleeves. The hijab itself comes from tribal culture that pre-dates Islam. And culture, far from being God-given, is man-made.

You need venture no further than Muslim Girl magazine to witness how mainstream Muslims reinforce the lie that the hijab is mandatory. This supposedly hip (and certainly glossy) publication routinely features covered girls as their cover girls. So much for representing the full diversity of the Muslim sisterhood.

Even “progressive” non-Muslims fall into this trap. Study the photo above. It’s a post-card flogged by the Interfaith Center of New York. Can you detect even one Muslim woman who’s not covered?

I see the veiled chick at the far end. It gets less conservative from there — but not to the point of depicting a Muslim woman who prays without submitting herself to a scarf.

Worse, the blurb on the back celebrates the “diversity of Muslim communities in the city.” Show me where.

Of course, the diversity exists in spades. So does the tension between Muslim parents and their daughters. In Berlin earlier this year, a group of young Muslim women — not a hijabi among them! — approached me to express gratitude that I’d posted an Islamic defense of inter-faith marriage.

Because this document is written by an imam, they can use it to legitimately challenge parents and clerics who want to force girls into loveless marriages with other Muslims. These young women told me that the Islamic inter-faith marriage defense is being downloaded by their friends. It’s also being used by German social services to counsel distraught Muslim girls.

For all of my readers who feel powerless to help another Aqsa Parvez, I have simple advice: Listen to her. Then come to this website for resources in various languages. Be not afraid of anything except complacency.

Meanwhile, may Aqsa rest in peace. Finally.

Last edited by james t kirk; 12-21-2007 at 09:55 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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