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Originally Posted by Crompsin
Implied consent gone wrong. Maybe. Implied consent none-the-less.
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Nowhere do I recall EVER having consenting, implied or not, to allowing an invasive procedure to be done on my body nor in agreeing that jack booted thugs could forcibly draw my blood. Can YOU show me where I've done that?
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Originally Posted by willravel
This law will come down to how the police choose to carry it out. If we get people bleeding to death (which is unlikely) it will change. If it gets belligerent drunk drivers into jail, then it's not so bad.
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because you only have the rights we say you should have. nice attitude. no wonder you deplore freedom.
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Originally Posted by Fotzlid
what it fails to mention is how much of a fight he was putting up or the circumstances surrounding his arrest (other than the DUI).
i've been spit on, punched and kicked by drunk people as well as being subjected to their bullshit ramblings and drunken bravado.
tough shit for him.
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so your hatred of alcohol imparts the belief that the rights of those who drink don't matter. gotcha.
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Originally Posted by host
It looks like a "good shoot". The lesson seems to be, "don't drink and drive". Is this what it feels like to be a conservative? My anti establishment instincts fail me, in this instance.
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don't drink and drive or we'll pop a cap in your ass. Is there a difference? I can see that there isn't in your mind.
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Originally Posted by host
dksuddeth, nothing happened when "authority" did this:
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and who are the cowardly sheeple that didn't do anything? what state was THAT in?
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Originally Posted by host
Get used to it, or die or go to prison, trying to stop it from happening again or protesting vigorously against it. You live in a place where most are preoccupied with Nascar, Monday night football, American Idol, or Jesus and the bible, it's the land of freedom called America.
Pick your shots. After what happened at Kent State, we had a song ("four dead in Oh-High-Oh"...) and everything. It was just eight months after Woodstock. It didn't help, nothing seems to. This country is much more conservative now than it was in early May, 1970. You need to raise awareness with the most grievous abuses of authority as examples, this "damaged wrist case", is not one of them.
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but I bet the death of the cop that uses these methods will, right?
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Originally Posted by analog
So a drunk is in a hospital, a nurse goes to get a blood sample (which is standard procedure for anyone admitted to a hospital with a medical (as in, not trauma-based) problem, let alone one with an altered level of consciousness or clearly under the influence of something), and the guy struggles so hard against his restraints that the officer must physically hold him so the nurse can do their job... and you call this "may inflict permanent physical damage"?
First of all, the officer wasn't taking blood. A nurse was. And yes, forcibly- when you're in an altered level of consciousness, medical staff has implied consent to care for you. This includes drawing blood for lab tests which can determine what, if anything, may be causing your medical problem. When you're in an altered level of consciousness, you're not competent to make your own decisions for medical care. It's a long-standing rule.
Paranoid anti-establishment conspiracy retards are the dirty cunts of the world, and that website "thenewspaper" is another in a long line of their soak-up-all-the-bullshit tampons.
If you want to latch onto the word "forcibly", knock yourself out. Yeah, it was done forcibly because the filthy fuck was drunk, had been driving drunk, and was then fighting against his restraints while a medical professional carried out their duties, despite his being a filthy fuck.
I could write another headline for this particular dirty cunt tampon of a "news" site- "EMS worker intentionally and enthusiastically stabs a woman in 4 fingers with a sharp instrument against her protests, then squeezes them vigorously so they bleed."
That would have been me taking blood sugar tests on a woman whose sugar was so low, she was completely out of her mind. She required 2 different drugs to stabilize back to normal, which was an almost sickeningly sweet and kind older southern woman.
That's exactly the type of "twisting of words" you've used to complain, once again, about the police. It's like tabloid journalism, only dumber and fueled by paranoid delusions of persecution.
The cop held his arms down- probably at the wrists, which is a very standard way to hold a person down so they can't hurt you or others, and would explain the damage to his wrists. What part of that implies a new carte blanch for cops to intentionally, permanently damage suspects? That's a whole new level of "reaching".
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Wow. How pathetically misguided and irrationally hate-filled. It's almost surprising.
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It is sheeple exactly like you that not only allowed the holocaust to happen, but are guaranteed to be the victims in the next one. knock yourself out slave. Yes, it is YOU, exactly like the jews led to slaughter, who were too afraid to fight for your freedom and your life.
you obviously have zero idea of what this country was supposed to be, only what you see before you as liberty is whittled away in the name of protecting you. I pity you.
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Last edited by dksuddeth; 12-21-2007 at 07:06 AM..
Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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