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Old 12-17-2007, 06:10 AM   #103 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by dc_dux
Actually, Barack Obama has the most contributions from individual contributors.

I agree that BUsh drove many out of the republican party, not through his war record, but rather through his spending record.

The fact remains that Paul needs Republican voters to win the Republican primaries and the majority of Republicans who have not abandoned the party and/or Bush are pro "stay the course" and pro Patriot Act (national security/terrorism) as their most important issue. These will not be Ron Paul voters.

Now that he has money, he needs to attract Independents. You believe he can with his positions, I dont agree, as I stated earlier...while majority of Independents agree with his Iraq war/no Patriot Act positions, they disagree with Paul on other issues that are important to them (abortion rights, social services, government regulatory role, etc)

The tortuise better hurry up....time is running out. The primaries start in less then three weeks and will effectively be over by mid-Feb (after Cali, NY, FL).


Jorgelito, the chart is from Pollster.com and represent aggregates of the major national polls (click the table to enlarge). You can also find polls for the state primaries.

I think the Huckabee surge can be directly attributed to the tanking of Fred Thompson. Thompson was presumed to be the social conservative candidate, but his campaign has been lazy and ineffective... Follow the blue and green lines..as Thomspson dropped, Huckabee went up..as the new hope of social conservatives


And, I think the Paul "army" is similar to the Deaniacs in another way that spells doom for the campaign...and that is relying on an army of young "outsiders" to spread the gospel of their candidate.

Put yourself in the place of a middle age undecided religious conservate couple in Iowa (the steretypical profile). Who is likely to influence your vote more...a neighbor who attends your church, shares your values and is trying to convince you that Huckabee is the best candidate or a young stranger from Chicago (or Kansas City or even Des Moines) who was bused in to promote the Paul candidacy?

The same applies in NH. Paul campaign is busing in hundreds of volunteers, but do you think NH voters want to be told how to vote by young guns from NYC or Boston?

And whats with the blimp? A nice gimmick, but IMO, not a very effective campaign tool.

Campaigns are won and lost on personal connections, either directly between candidate and voter or through surrogates with whom voters can relate...not money bombs, buses of young outsiders or blimps.
I don't understand what you're wanting us to do. Do you think we should just stop going to meetup groups stop taking polls, stop raising money? I'm sure that's what you would like.

Should we just wait around for the media to give us a fair shake or continue emailing and calling media outlets like crazy? We don't get free reign at the media like other candidates. McCain just got endorsed by Lieberman, is that really a bigger story than raising 6.3 million in one day? You wouldn think so from the headlines and pundits.

This campaign has taken a huge internet following and converted it into a real presence in the streets with signs and rallys, not to mention huge amounts of money raised.

Oh, and the blimp it's not even a campaign tool. It has nothing to do with the campaign. It was a total grassroots effort raising hundreds of thousands of dollars to get a huge Ron Paul ad in the air.
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